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To: incindiary
It isn't really a "conspiracy", but the two parties in government have figured out that part of the pie is better than none at all. So they have colluded to take the power and authority away from the citizenry themselves and vest it in the government, whoever is in charge.

This is why all government eventually leads to tyranny, and why the founders never wanted anyone to have a vote if they didn't pay taxes.

They designed a brilliant system of checks and balances, and over time we let the lawyers erode it away. Now we're subjects again, not citizens. We've traded our one tyrant 300 miles away for 3,000 tyrants, one mile away. And I'm afraid the only way we're going to get rid of the new tyrants, is the same way we got rid of the last one.

18 posted on 02/11/2008 1:34:16 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell
the founders never wanted anyone to have a vote if they didn't pay taxes.

That is not exactly true.

They didn't want anyone voting who did not own property.

I came to understand and support that position.

It is the fatal flaw of universal suffrage that a majority will eventually vote themselves the property of those who own it.

We see the results of universal suffrage before us at this very moment.

The average person is voting for candidates promising to hand out the most money - other peoples' money.

27 posted on 02/11/2008 2:33:10 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: tcostell

You can say all that again, and twice!


33 posted on 02/11/2008 3:19:34 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: tcostell
It isn't really a "conspiracy", but the two parties in government have figured out that part of the pie is better than none at all. So they have colluded to take the power and authority away from the citizenry themselves and vest it in the government, whoever is in charge.

I would call that a "conspiracy". I have felt for awhile that the two parties were taking turns in power, in return for no one upsetting the apple cart. I think it is too late to save the GOP & we conservatives need to get started now on forming a new party for us.

I also know a lot of liberals & I think they would agree with us about their own party too. I think the dems and pubs have slit their own throats this time around. I, for one - refuse to play their game anymore. Anyone that lets them get away with it, is as guilty of treason as they are.

47 posted on 02/11/2008 5:13:41 AM PST by alicewonders (Conservative without a country.)
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