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Posted on 02/14/2008 2:49:59 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
Wind Power is cheaper and can be deployed quicker. The amount of wind energy in the Plains States from Texas to North Dakota is apporoximately 250% of ALL the electrical needs of the United States. A national plan to build and install the towers and manufacture the turbines and turbine blades, (about the wing span of a Boeing 737) would create thousands of jobs and create mucho wealth. Fund these expenses with the excess funds in the Social Security Fund( loan it to the power companies NOT the Federal Government which is not in the For Profit Business) and the power companis could pay back the Social Security fund with interest at a greater rate of return than the meager 1.5% interest that the government T-Bills earn!!!
Keep It Simple Stupids!!(gove that is)
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The authors propose that a half-trillion dollar subsidy
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oh forget another subsidy to something that might not work. let the market find a solution to foreign oil...the way to do it is to get rid of regulations and increase the price of gas (cap and trade or a gas tax that is tied to a reduction in the corp tax).
LOL.
I was just reading from a GE site about them. Even if your roof doesn’t face to the South (their info), you can ground mount, trellis mount or even pergola mount.
.25 of your yearly KW usage is the factor to use for planning.
http://www.gepower.com/prod_serv/products/solar/en/faqs/resid_sys.htm
I am hoping that the technology for biodiesel from algae also becomes economically viable. I can see algae diesel fuel being grown from rooftops or on land unsuitable for crops.
How is destroying 165000 square miles of desert better than using nuclear or coal power plants?
How many species would be destroyed? How many people would be displaced?
LOL! VERY apropos.
I have not seen more than 10 hrs of sun in the last 30 days.
Half a trillion sounds like a lot, but it works out to 4.2 billion per year over 40 years. Certainly do-able financially, although there’s a lot of other stuff to be worked out first.
A 12 guage wire of copper safely carries 20A at 120V. A 12 guage lead, indium, or other some superconducting metal-wire safely carries 10,000 Amps, a 500 fold increase. But is has to be DC current, not AC. Thus high voltage superconducting wires on transmission towers. What kills you is the miles and miles of insulation and N2 as a refrigerant. This was all worked out years and years ago in a Scientific American article.
But this was before High Temperature Superconductors were discovered, that changes the equation somewhat. What you would have then is AC feeders from the solar farms tying into 1 to 7 main suco DC trunk lines and then distributed to distant tie points and AC networks already in place.
What KILLS this though is just the .5T funding, these solar dreamers are deceiving themselves that THEY, and ONLY they win the congressional funding lottery, everybody else in the energy development field gets peanuts. eeeyeah...suuuure. Meanwhilst the CHAIN SAW is a real world solar collector, how many millions of square miles do trees cover? And super duper insulating your own house would solve most of this energy problem anyway...
Did the STUPID solar farm thing on 10 flat acres south of Gila AZ in 1971-2, over 25 years ago now. Dummest thing I ever did. Who in the HELL lends you $4,356,000(10 ac x 43,560 x $10/sf)to make a solar farm, and waits 35 YEARS to see the first dime of profit? PT Barnum was right, there’s a(solar)SUCKER born every minute...
[But will all the people of Arizona, Nevada and Utah vacate much of their land for this? ]
The feds already own the land. About 73% of the state of Arizona is federal and PAYS NO TAXES in the state.
Just use the portions the federal government already owns, and it shouldn’t affect land owners much except provide jobs.
Though I wonder about the black surface of the solar cells in that large an area acting as a heat sink, creating a localized version of global warming.
And, putting all of the infrastructure in a single centralized location rather than spread out all over the country will simplify the job for the Chinese when they decide to take down the entire US economy...
“And super duper insulating your own house would solve most of this energy problem anyway.”
Again to anyone who missed my posts above. A geothermal home system provides all the heat/air for a house in central Indiana for about $300 per year. (Can be used in Canada and in Texas with less efficiency - due to soil temperatures.) The technology is proven for about 30 years.
Not on any academics list so it doesn’t get discussed.
[Did the STUPID solar farm thing on 10 flat acres south of Gila AZ in 1971-2, over 25 years ago now. Dummest thing I ever did. Who in the HELL lends you $4,356,000(10 ac x 43,560 x $10/sf)to make a solar farm, and waits 35 YEARS to see the first dime of profit? PT Barnum was right, there’s a(solar)SUCKER born every minute...]
Solar is much more efficient now. Electricity prices are much higher. I was in Quartzsite 3 weeks ago and dry camped next to a fellow who never camps with facilities. He doesn’t have a generator and his house has enough solar to put electricity back into the grid.
But, solar electric and water are only part of the cure. Getting the dems to quit blocking our use of OUR oil reserves is paramount.
They are ruining this country and we have little time left.
I expect an armed uprising w/i 5-10 years. Go for it.
Mother Earth, Gia is always charging and discharging so we ought to use "Her".
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Sounds interesting but that is a large investment...and, after all that money is spent, more cost-effective solutions may be developed that would effectively make obsolete the technology on which all that money was spent...I think its best to let the market find the best answers to high cost energy
That's what Mr. Ohm thinks about it... '-(
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