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More on a Hillary Comeback
US News ^ | Feb. 19, 2008 | by Michael Barone

Posted on 02/19/2008 7:39:36 AM PST by jdm

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To: bill1952
Obama is the only dem that McCain CAN beat. Hillary is unbeatable. If she takes the nomination she will take 30 -34 states in November.

Agree.

41 posted on 02/19/2008 8:08:01 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: jdm

The sinking ships have fled the rat.


42 posted on 02/19/2008 8:08:24 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: al baby

Obama is NOT a shoe in. He cannot talk without notes, he doesn’t say anything, his wife is a loose cannon, and he is black. Plus McCain is a WARRIOR if nothing else, and will say anddo whatever it takes to win. He would NOT be above using the race issue against Barack.


43 posted on 02/19/2008 8:10:17 AM PST by societygirl
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To: bill1952

“Hillary is unbeatable. If she takes the nomination she will take 30 -34 states in November.”

Bull...there is a built in 49% of Americans who will not vote for her under any circumstances. Add that to a 40% white male vote, which she is scoring very low with, in fact, lower historically than Gore or Kerry did.

Hillary will win if illegal immigrant voters and dyke women show up in droves to the voting booths.


44 posted on 02/19/2008 8:10:46 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Not true. Hillary will not carry any white male votes...she is polling very low in that area, lower than Kerry or Gore...and there is a built in voting bloc of those who will not vote for her under any circumstances. If enough lesbians, minorities, and illegal immigrants get to the polls, yeah it may be close, but Hillary to me is unelectable because she has HIGH negatives and unlikability.


45 posted on 02/19/2008 8:13:01 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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To: All

We need to knock out Clinton now. I think all Texas and Ohio freepers should vote against her and do America a favor.


46 posted on 02/19/2008 8:13:35 AM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (Don't be a kamikoze Conservative! Vote Republican in 2008!)
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To: Jeff Head

I know of many, many in Texas who’ll cross over for Obama. Myself included. I just can’t imagine her getting one step closer to the White House. If you think she’s easier to beat than Obama, you’ve forgotten how ruthless she is. If she gets the nomination, all bets are off.


47 posted on 02/19/2008 8:15:10 AM PST by katieanna
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To: palmer

I would. Hillary will be a much better President than Obama.

For those who think that means easier times for a republican in 2012, I could agree. Is it worth what we would go through for 4 years with an Obama presidency? No.

And worse, what if things don’t go bad? Then Obama wins easily in 2012. I think we might actually have an easier time beating Hillary in 2012 because the republicans will still be very opposed to her, and her presidency will galvanize the party in a way Obama may not.


48 posted on 02/19/2008 8:15:26 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Your first sentence makes no sense. Your last sentence does. Please explain why a galvanzing Hillary would be a better president.


49 posted on 02/19/2008 8:19:22 AM PST by palmer
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To: Red in Blue PA
Number 1- FR may be shut down. (And no that is not an exaggeration)

Not if we bust our chops and take back the House and/or Senate. Read the tag.

50 posted on 02/19/2008 8:23:01 AM PST by upchuck (McCain won't win. Spend your time and money to take back Congress. Only way to stop a RAT Prez.)
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To: jdm
This is an especially optimistic assumption in Wisconsin, where Clinton currently trails Obama by 4 or 5 percent in public polls. The results are as follows: a 44-30 delegate edge in Wisconsin, an 83-58 delegate edge in Ohio, and an 82-41 delegate edge in Texas. Overall this is an 80-delegate advantage, based (again I emphasize) on optimistic assumptions.

Those are indeed optimistic and may be very optimistic figures for Hillary Clinton. Based on the way Barrone gave the delegates counts above, it means that Hillary Clinton needs to carry both Wisconsin and Ohio by 60% to 40% for Obama and she needs to carry Texas by 66% to 34% for Obama.

51 posted on 02/19/2008 8:24:24 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Obama will also do severe damage to the Republic. His views are every bit as outragous and even more so than Hillary's.

Obama's statements regarding foreign policy, the war, the economy, moral issues, etc. send just as severe shivers down my spine.

If Hillary can remain in the fight, and not be dealt a knockout blow, the left will continue to splinter and make the job of beating them easier.

That's my read...others may disagree and that's fine.

52 posted on 02/19/2008 8:24:37 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: jdm
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Yes, that is an awesome web site. Give it a look.

53 posted on 02/19/2008 8:25:14 AM PST by upchuck (McCain won't win. Spend your time and money to take back Congress. Only way to stop a RAT Prez.)
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To: jdm
Quitting? Not gonna happen. Hillary to Katie:"It will be me." And she meant that, one way or the other. Remember, its all about the Clintons.
54 posted on 02/19/2008 8:26:12 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Jeff Head

Your friends and relatives in Texas are making a huge mistake by voting for Hillary Clinton.


55 posted on 02/19/2008 8:26:23 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Agree 100%.


56 posted on 02/19/2008 8:28:37 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Jeff Head
If Hillary can remain in the fight, and not be dealt a knockout blow, the left will continue to splinter and make the job of beating them easier.

You seem to be radically underestimating her power. The reason the left has any chance of splintering is people like me who crossed over and voted Obama in Virginia. But she will take the nomination regardless of that.

57 posted on 02/19/2008 8:28:47 AM PST by palmer
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To: jdm
The press will give a pass to whichever Democrat candidate prevails...

No matter what, I don’t want Hillary and Bill to appear on my tv set for the next 4 years (or more)...

58 posted on 02/19/2008 8:28:48 AM PST by detch
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To: Jeff Head

“Hillary, IMHO, is an easier win in November than Obama...but that’s just my opinion.”

Ehhh. The media wanted a McCain/Hillary race...IMHO because she has LOADS of dirt on McCain...shovelfuls...from his FBI files.
We’re all much better off even with an Obama win...because it will take him until his second term to figure out how to shut down FR...while her Heinousness will do so by the inauguration:)


59 posted on 02/19/2008 8:29:03 AM PST by mo
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To: Ancesthntr
I greatly hope that you do not do vote for Hillary. Please do not buy into the thing that Hillary Clinton is easier to beat in the general elections, I used to think the same but not anymore. If she wins Texas and Ohio by a big margin she will has the momentum and she will win the nomination without a fight at the convention even if Obama is still ahead of her in the delegates count. The only sure thing for a real fight at the convention is that if Obama is leading by 150-200 delegates and she steals it via the Super Delegates. If he is only 50 or even 100 delegates ahead then the Super Delegates will go to her without any fight. To ensure that Obama has a good delegates margin going to the convention he should win or get very close in Texas.
60 posted on 02/19/2008 8:34:04 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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