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DC v. Heller - Montana prepares to secede
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Posted on 02/19/2008 7:35:11 PM PST by djf

Secy of State Brad Johnson of Montana delivered a letter to the Washington Times about possible outcomes of the Heller decision.

Second Amendment an individual right

The U.S. Supreme Court will soon decide D.C. v. Heller, the first case in more than 60 years in which the court will confront the meaning of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Although Heller is about the constitutionality of the D.C. handgun ban, the court's decision will have an impact far beyond the District ("Promises breached," Op-Ed, Thursday).

The court must decide in Heller whether the Second Amendment secures a right for individuals to keep and bear arms or merely grants states the power to arm their militias, the National Guard. This latter view is called the "collective rights" theory.

A collective rights decision by the court would violate the contract by which Montana entered into statehood, called the Compact With the United States and archived at Article I of the Montana Constitution. When Montana and the United States entered into this bilateral contract in 1889, the U.S. approved the right to bear arms in the Montana Constitution, guaranteeing the right of "any person" to bear arms, clearly an individual right.

There was no assertion in 1889 that the Second Amendment was susceptible to a collective rights interpretation, and the parties to the contract understood the Second Amendment to be consistent with the declared Montana constitutional right of "any person" to bear arms.

As a bedrock principle of law, a contract must be honored so as to give effect to the intent of the contracting parties. A collective rights decision by the court in Heller would invoke an era of unilaterally revisable contracts by violating the statehood contract between the United States and Montana, and many other states.

Numerous Montana lawmakers have concurred in a resolution raising this contract-violation issue. It's posted at progunleaders.org. The United States would do well to keep its contractual promise to the states that the Second Amendment secures an individual right now as it did upon execution of the statehood contract.

BRAD JOHNSON Montana secretary of state Helena, Mont. Montana, the Second Amendment and D.C. v. Heller


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bradjohnson; heller; mt2008; mtsos; parker; rkba; secede; secession; secondamendment; separatism; statesecession; statesrights; union
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To: djf

I moved to Montana for just this reason. Just keep the Rainbow Libs, and RINOs out. Sadly the libs have discovered central Montana. They think Flathead Lake is wonderful. The locals are not so impressed.

Semper Paratus!

Gunner


61 posted on 02/19/2008 8:21:54 PM PST by weps4ret (Things the make you go; Hmmmmmmm?)
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To: djf

I guess I’ll enjoy living in Montana...


62 posted on 02/19/2008 8:22:15 PM PST by Gritty (Piss on golf. Real Americans go to the range. - LTC Dave Grossman, Self-Defense Expert)
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To: grey_whiskers
Malmstrom.
63 posted on 02/19/2008 8:22:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rickomatic

Let’s not forget Nevada...The Sierras make a nice defensible barrier on the West....


64 posted on 02/19/2008 8:23:35 PM PST by Crapgame (There's no place I'd rather be than right here, with my FRedneck, white socks and Blue Ribbon Beer)
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To: guido911

One word! Wonderful! Big Sky, Big Mountain, simply wonderful!

Gunner


65 posted on 02/19/2008 8:23:55 PM PST by weps4ret (Things the make you go; Hmmmmmmm?)
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To: djf

Interesting. Have they filed and amicus brief? It could make a difference. If they haven’t it’s all talk.


66 posted on 02/19/2008 8:27:06 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: EternalVigilance

Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah.

That should be big enough...

Don’t forget Eastern Wa.


67 posted on 02/19/2008 8:27:14 PM PST by gunner03 ("03" Mustang)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It’s one way to get rid of McInsane. :p


68 posted on 02/19/2008 8:27:21 PM PST by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: All

Probably will take a state like Montana to secede to get the Federal Govt back to its Constitutional roots

Doubt the Feds would invade to assert Federal law. Not enough troops available w Middle East and other obligations. Also the logistics of launching a Federal incursion into MT would make such action nearly prohibitive


69 posted on 02/19/2008 8:27:48 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (McCain is a conservative...uh, yeah...right)
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To: FR Class of 1998
I think the feds would use force if necessary to stop a secession. They haven’t cared about law during my lifetime, that’s for sure.

And right there is the real reason for the 2nd Amendment. It isn't a catch 22, really. More like a catch 21.5.

70 posted on 02/19/2008 8:30:45 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Plus, merely stating “Guess we’re a Territory now” and handing a bill over for ten thousand head of horses for the deputies as provided by law would shock some people into thinking “Hmm”. Plus, it’d be funnier and more loyal.


71 posted on 02/19/2008 8:32:02 PM PST by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I would think that people all over might get a little disturbed if they were watching CNN and saw the federal government launching RPG’s at the Montana State capitol.


72 posted on 02/19/2008 8:32:42 PM PST by djf (I think McCain deserves a chance. After all, he is on R side!)
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To: CapnJack

New double-wide at 100k, 100 acres at 10K per acre, so around $1.1 million, at least where I live.


73 posted on 02/19/2008 8:32:57 PM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Crapgame

We’ll take Nevada, but not if Clark County and Harry Reid come along. ;)


74 posted on 02/19/2008 8:35:59 PM PST by GOP_Raider (With parting breath we'll sing that song "A Utah Man Am I" RIP GBH)
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To: djf; Kolokotronis

Just get in touch with the EU. They’’ll give you some pointers.


75 posted on 02/19/2008 8:46:21 PM PST by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: djf

Woo hoo!!

Big City
Merle Haggard

I’m tired of this dirty old city.
Entirely too much work and never enough play.
And I’m tired of these dirty old sidewalks.
Think I’ll walk off my steady job today.

Turn me loose, set me free, somewhere in the middle of Montanna.
And gimme all I got comin’ to me,
And keep your retirement and your so called social security.
Big City turn me loose and set me free.

Been working everyday since I was twenty.
Haven’t got a thing to show for anything I’ve done.
There’s folks who never work and they’ve got plenty.
Think it’s time some guys like me had some fun.

Turn me loose, set me free, somewhere in the middle of Montanna.
And gimme all I got comin’ to me,
And keep your retirement and your so called social security.
Big City turn me loose and set me free.


76 posted on 02/19/2008 8:46:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: djf
I guarantee everyone that the SC is not going to rule against the 2A with regards to individual right.

They don't care if it is an individual right or not so long as they can continue to enacted "reasonable restriction"

The Supremes are gonna toss us a bone and conservatives are gonna get excited, but the real outcome is that reasonable restriction will still be inplace.

The sheep will be placated and that's the end of that.

77 posted on 02/19/2008 8:46:30 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: All

Just so nobody misunderstands, I for one am totally committed to saving the whole Union, and restoring respect for the unalienable rights to life and liberty on every square inch of American territory.

Let the anti-American tyrants move to Siberia or something.


78 posted on 02/19/2008 8:50:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (If all you've got left is a choice of the lesser of evils, you've awakened in HELL)
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To: djf

Montana has finally figured out a way to become densely populated?


79 posted on 02/19/2008 8:56:28 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: EternalVigilance

And it’s right next door...


80 posted on 02/19/2008 8:56:42 PM PST by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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