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To accommodate Muslim students, Harvard tries women-only gym hours
The Daily Free Press (Boston U) ^ | 25 feb 08 | Abbie Ruzicka

Posted on 02/25/2008 8:19:03 AM PST by white trash redneck

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To: Zionist Conspirator
Well it all goes back to the original assumptions of multiculturalism.

In the ideological constrcut known as "multiculturalism", Western civilization per se does not exist: the West is a force that steals, usurps, twists and destroys other, authentic cultures.

The West is not a culture: it is a vampire.

Segregation of women is thus a healing accomodation made by the evil vampires to the bearers of an authentic culture.

Complaints by Muslims are the complaints of a marginalized people yearning to reestablish their authentic cultural life.

Irish Catholics and Scots-Irish Baptists are, by definition, cultureless and their complaints are inauthentic and repressive - a desire to revive the evil vampirism of the West.

41 posted on 02/25/2008 9:10:45 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

True, you don’t see much resistance from the left. It’s as if, in the butting of heads, we have the Islamists with hard skulls and minimal brain matter inside, and the leftists with only unprotected mush for brains. The issues are at odds, but the people espousing them are very differently outfitted.
Will the lefties ever gear up for the battle? Abandon their suicidal notions of tolerance and moral equivalence, and push back the barbarians?


42 posted on 02/25/2008 9:13:24 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Nine more days of Clinton II.)
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To: white trash redneck

And people laugh at the Brits. I don’t see where we’re doing any better at maintaining our culture.


43 posted on 02/25/2008 9:14:57 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Brilliant
And not just men only, but...

...An early brochure, published in 1643, justified the College's [Harvard's] existence: "To advance Learning and perpetuate it to Posterity; dreading to leave an illiterate Ministry to the Churches."

Somehow, I doubt the Puritan Colonists were thinking about an Islamic ministry when they wrote that.

44 posted on 02/25/2008 9:19:18 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
In my opinion, reasonable accomadation of religion, even those we disagree with, is a rational approach for a public university.

But here, establishing women-only hours (unless they're in the middle of the night) means that men lose some of their access to the gym. If the gym is women-only from 2-4 PM on Wednesday, and that's my usual gym time, my options are now restricted to cater to these particular religious needs, something that doesn't seem to be true in your other examples. Accommodating Muslim women means penalizing all men (or at least all men who don't actively want women to be segregated). If Muslim women want to establish a new gym that is women-only, and use their own resources to do it, I don't mind. But if I were a Harvard student, I would be irritated about any Harvard resource being limited to me on these grounds.

45 posted on 02/25/2008 9:25:15 AM PST by untenured
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To: ketsu
I wouldn’t care if they had man only time so girls couldn’t laugh at my chubby belly.

Hear, hear! That was why I quit going to our local gym, years ago.

Women only hours & co-ed hours, but no men only hours. Then, as if that weren't enough, they opened a 'women's only' (Curves) gym nearby. Heaven forfend, though that a 'men only' establishment be allowed; that is 'discrimination'.

46 posted on 02/25/2008 9:25:29 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: white trash redneck

Assimilate or emigrate. (or re-emigrate).


47 posted on 02/25/2008 9:26:58 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: white trash redneck

Harvard has a gym? Who knew?


48 posted on 02/25/2008 9:27:01 AM PST by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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To: white trash redneck

“We live together in one community, it only makes sense for everyone to compromise slightly in order for everyone to live happily,”

I have but a very small nose, and you such a large tent...


49 posted on 02/25/2008 9:27:41 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: white trash redneck

bump


50 posted on 02/25/2008 9:28:11 AM PST by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: white trash redneck

My leftist sister went to Harvard for her Masters. I am going to send her this article to her to see what she has to say about this.


51 posted on 02/25/2008 9:29:19 AM PST by Sprite518
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The school gym should be open for everyone at the same hours. It’s not fair to the men at the university to have the hours they are able to work out cut. If some women don’t want to work out with men in the same gym they should get a membership off campus to a gym that does ladies only hours or that is completely woman only.


52 posted on 02/25/2008 9:31:53 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: white trash redneck
Ricky Bobby + Pork Rinds = AWESOME!

I'd consume plenty of pork rinds in the time I'm allowed to work out to restore vital nutrients. And leave the bag to educate others on their essential vitamins.

53 posted on 02/25/2008 9:42:43 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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Harvard College - Founded in 1636, named for its first benefactor Minister John Harvard, who left his library and half his estate to it. Offered academic courses based on the English university model but consistent with the prevailing Puritan philosophy of the first colonists. Many of its early graduates became ministers. A 1643 brochure stated the college existed “To advance learning and perpetuate it to posterity; dreading to leave an illiterate ministry to the churches.”


54 posted on 02/25/2008 9:49:42 AM PST by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: pepperhead
Imagine the howls if men were alloted gym restricted hours.
55 posted on 02/25/2008 9:55:03 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

Seems like straight men could make the same argument about being separated from homosexual men that these Muslim women do —— their modesty requires them not to be ogled by men who might a sexual interest in them.

So how about it Harvard - some hours for straight men only - no gays.


56 posted on 02/25/2008 10:08:25 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, walked out on Summers’ talk, saying later that if she hadn’t left, ‘’I would’ve either blacked out or thrown up.”"

An outrageous statement which indicated she is unfit to be a professor at a community college, never mind a supposedly world-leading research institution. The (then) President of Harvard raises the possibility, just the mere possibility, that there might be any differences in biology of the sexes which might, just possibly, have any impact at all on the proportions among top research scientists and this "biologist" is so violently ill she cannot stay and rationally discuss the subject? Good job, Nancy, you just gave support to the worst sexist stereotypes from the 19th century of women having fainting fits, etc. if tasked with any difficult mental exertions...... way to really stand up for the image of women as scientists!!
57 posted on 02/25/2008 10:22:10 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: we'll send Pelosi and Brezinski to Damascus, that's our foreign policy!!)
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To: white trash redneck

If women are covered from head to toe what difference dows it make if men are in the room too?

Simply mind boggling!


58 posted on 02/25/2008 10:45:29 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: wideawake; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Well it all goes back to the original assumptions of multiculturalism.

In the ideological constrcut known as "multiculturalism", Western civilization per se does not exist: the West is a force that steals, usurps, twists and destroys other, authentic cultures.

The West is not a culture: it is a vampire.

Segregation of women is thus a healing accomodation made by the evil vampires to the bearers of an authentic culture.

Complaints by Muslims are the complaints of a marginalized people yearning to reestablish their authentic cultural life.

Irish Catholics and Scots-Irish Baptists are, by definition, cultureless and their complaints are inauthentic and repressive - a desire to revive the evil vampirism of the West.

Spot on, wideawake! 668, what wideawake said!

60 posted on 02/25/2008 12:52:10 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Elleh hadevarim 'asher-tzivvah HaShem la`asot 'otam.)
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