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To: SkyPilot
NYT Pretends McCain Can’t Be President

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

Anyone born inside the United States

Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

20 posted on 02/28/2008 4:18:46 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
The big question I have about this is:

In this case many people say that the us code is the controlling authority, in short an act of congress modified the constitution.

Now we have the same people that claim they cannot pass a law that would take away the anchor baby BS without a constitutional amendment????

Thoughts!

26 posted on 02/28/2008 4:30:44 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: TexasCajun
Thanks for posting that. Now I won’t have to post it once again. This silliness is coming up about every two weeks now.
38 posted on 02/28/2008 4:57:13 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: TexasCajun

The 14th Amendment talks about “naturalized” citizens. The Constitution refers to “natural born” citizens.

The NYT would do well to realize those are two different terms.

John McCain did nothing except be born to be an American.

In fact, I can’t wait until the outrage against the NYT’s anti-military tripe gets spun up!


68 posted on 02/28/2008 5:46:01 AM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: TexasCajun

“Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. “

Is this sentence ACTUALLY written in the cited law, or your interpretation? IF IT IS NOT, this very law (and other similar statutes) constitute the basis for an opposite CONCLUSION.

The New York Times is a vile propaganda organ. Do not imagine that they are stupid, or incapable of subtle trickery. We need to be careful how we react to this article. Otherwise, we will be playing into their hands.


150 posted on 02/28/2008 9:57:41 AM PST by DoorGunner ( Pandhandlers, diapers, and sleazy politicians cry out for "CHANGE!")
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To: TexasCajun
If I were a judge ruling on the issue, I would certainly consider the statute you quoted as dispositive for McCain's being within the constitutional meaning of "natural-born citizen." It's as simple as that.
160 posted on 02/28/2008 12:50:26 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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