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Congress in turmoil over Air Force tanker decision
Reuters ^ | Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:50pm EST | Kevin Drawbaugh

Posted on 02/29/2008 7:13:12 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Air Force decision awarding a $35 billion aircraft contract to a team including the European parent of Airbus landed like a bomb in Congress on Friday, drawing howls of protest from lawmakers aligned with the loser, America's Boeing Co.

The Congressional delegation from the Seattle area said they were "outraged." Kansas Republican Rep. Todd Tiahrt vowed to seek a review of the decision "at the highest levels of the Pentagon and Congress" in hopes of reversing it.

Boeing has big facilities in both Seattle and Wichita, which stood to gain from the long-term project to build up to 179 aerial refueling tankers. Although Boeing was favored to win the contract, the Air Force awarded it to a partnership between Northrop Grumman and Europe's EADS.

Conventional wisdom was running so strongly against Northrop-EADS in some corners of Capitol Hill that Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison's office issued a statement late on Friday declaring Boeing the winner. It was swiftly retracted.

Lawmakers from Alabama, where Northrop and EADS plan to do some tanker work, were effusive in praising the Air Force.

"I thought all along that the Northrop Grumman-EADS proposal was the best," Sen. Richard Shelby, an Alabama Republican, told reporters. He said the contract would bring nearly 7,000 jobs to the state.

On the disappointment of Chicago-based Boeing's allies, Shelby said he understood. "If Boeing had won this contract ... I would have been concerned about it."

As for Tiahrt's vow to seek a review, Shelby said, "The Pentagon and the Air Force have made their decision and I think it was for the right reasons and I'll stand by that."

The decision was sure to result in a debate, with a formal protest also possible, said defense consultant Jim McAleese.

The tanker deal will give EADS a huge boost in the U.S. defense market, making it the second biggest foreign supplier behind Britain's BAE Systems, analysts said.

"We are so very excited about having the opportunity to help the Air Force acquire the most modern and capable refueling tanker -- a tanker assembled in America -- by Americans," said Alabama Republican Rep. Jo Bonner.

Bonner represents Mobile, Alabama, where assembly work on the aircraft will be done, although it will largely be constructed in France at facilities of EADS' unit Airbus.

Airbus, with large facilities in Toulouse, is Boeing's arch-rival in the global commercial airliner business.

Wichita's Rep. Tiahrt said, "I am deeply troubled by the Air Force's decision to award the KC-X tanker to a French company that has never built a tanker in its history.

"We should have an American tanker built by an American company with American workers. I cannot believe we would create French jobs in place of Kansas jobs."

Tiahrt said he will seek to have the decision reviewed by both the Pentagon and Congress. "At the end of this laborious process, I hope the Air Force reverses its decision."

Washington Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, both Democrats, along with six other lawmakers from the state said in a joint statement: "We are outraged that this decision taps European Airbus and its foreign workers to provide a tanker to our American military.

"We will be asking tough questions about the decision to outsource this contract. We look forward to hearing the Air Force's justification."

(Additional reporting by Andrea Shalal-Esa, editing by Richard Chang)



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; aerospace; airbus; aviation; boeing; defensecontractors; defensespending; dod; northropgrumman; tanker; usaf
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To: Paleo Conservative

41 posted on 02/29/2008 7:57:50 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: chuckles

John McCain


42 posted on 02/29/2008 7:59:42 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Here's a link to another story. I was forced to excerpt.

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/353313_tankereverett01.html

Dismay in Everett over tanker deal

Last updated February 29, 2008 6:06 p.m. PT

By JOSEPH TARTAKOFF
P-I REPORTER

EVERETT -- At Machinists Lodge 751, across the street from Boeing's plant, workers were outraged by the shocking news Friday that the Air Force contract to build refueling tankers would not be theirs.

The main gathering room had been prepped for the media in anticipation of a celebration, with an over-sized poster of a tanker being fueled, along with the words, "The American Dream Bring It Home!"

But within a half hour of the announcement that Boeing had lost the deal to a team of Northrop Grumman and Airbus parent EADS, union organizers had plastered the room with posters scrawled with slogans such as, "We Will Get a New Tanker Made in France?", "R.I.P. U.S. Built Tanker," and "How could this happen?"

When Tom Wroblewski, the president of the Machinists union, addressed the gathered workers and media and mentioned that the winner was a "European company," he was interrupted with shouts of "Boo!"

"It is a paper airplane only," he said, adding that that plant for the EADS-Northrop tanker still needed to be built in Mobile, Ala., while Boeing workers could have started work right away on a 767 tanker.

Almost all of the workers at the hall said they expected Boeing to land the lucrative contract.

Sandy Hastings, a quality assurance lab technician, who was putting up posters in the main room, said it was "a shock that they would send something for the military somewhere else other than here."

Excerpt Click on link to read the full story


43 posted on 02/29/2008 8:00:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: DennisR

How is this a foolish decesion?


44 posted on 02/29/2008 8:00:15 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Paleo Conservative

Gee, you would have thought that Sen. Obama could have saved the deal being as how he is such a wise and effective senator for Illinois < /s>


45 posted on 02/29/2008 8:00:25 PM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

A bad decision in every possible way. I’m stunned.

This benefits no less than John McCain, who did his level best to deny Boeing the business. Google on [mccain boeing tanker scandal] for more info.

It’s bad, and sad.


46 posted on 02/29/2008 8:02:40 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: blue state conservative

7000 people will put on decals? I’m serious!


47 posted on 02/29/2008 8:04:35 PM PST by ROTB (Front Runner=rich guy who doesn't hate evil and strives to offend no one, & WILL SELL YOU OUT.)
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To: Tribune7

Uh, the engines are made here in the U.S.

The refueling equipment is made here in the U.S.

The avionics are made here in the U.S.

And final assembly and intergration will be done here in the U.S.

Overall the A330 program has a much bigger economic footprint than Boeing’s proposal.

In Alabama alone where final assembly is done it will create 5000 new jobs and will have a $1 billion+ dollar impact anually

Georga is getting 4500 new jobs with $440 million anually

Arizona around 1100 new jobs

California 4700 new jobs

Florida 2000 new jobs

Illinois 2800 new jobs with close to $2 billion anually

2300 jobs in Ohio

1100 jobs in North Carolina

3800 jobs in Tennessee

4800 jobs in Texas

5500 jobs in Louisiana with $500+ million anually

The list goes on and on since it benefits 230 companies in 49 states

Boeing on the otherhand shot itself in the foot when it tried to bribe it’s way into getting the contract by offering jobs to those Airforce officers who oversee the program. Case in point Darleen Druyun who was negotiating a job with Boeing at the same time she was involved in contracts with the company.

The 767 is a old airframe design that has a shorter range and payload capability than the A330.

Boeing is also behind schedule on it’s KC767 deliveries to Italy and Japan.

The KC767 did not have multipoint refueling either


48 posted on 02/29/2008 8:06:44 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: homeguard

US manufacturers have a better plane — it’s called the Boeing 787. Boeing has already sold 800+ of them and it hasn’t even flown yet. The problem is that there is no freighter version of the 787 yet that could be used as a tanker...


49 posted on 02/29/2008 8:07:27 PM PST by Plane_Guy
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To: CindyDawg
Well.....

Northrup is a very American Company, but the technology using light weight carbon fiber panels, especially on the rudders and tail seem to be the purview of the Europeans.

Given that capacity is directly connected to the net weight of the aircraft, and lift to power, we will have half and the Europeans the the other. The combination meets the specs, which Boeing could not do for some reason.

Anyhoo, gonna be fully retired in a few very short years at 65, and I'm happy Northrup go the contract.

Even at the also very American Avondale Shipyard's where I once worked, we had plenty of German and French tech that we built American ships with. It is a global world today and it has been for a long time.

50 posted on 02/29/2008 8:08:18 PM PST by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: blue state conservative

Yep.

McCain’s hand is in this as well.


51 posted on 02/29/2008 8:09:29 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: pissant

This all goes back to years ago. Rummy had concerns about Boeing 5 years ago. Boeing has been in delay after delay and I am still not sure if the Japanese have their air tanker yet. A lot of corruption charges and firings, but everyone still thought Boeing would get the contract.

The current tankers are from the Eisenhower epoch and some that were built back in the 80’s by MD I think. I think the Pentagon got tired of messing with Boeing and taking for granted they had the contract no matter what they did. Boeing still may have a shot at supplying a good part of the fleet if they ever get their stuff together.


52 posted on 02/29/2008 8:10:00 PM PST by WildcatClan (Real Marxism you can believe in. Yes, we can. Si, se puede.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
After collapsing to build a fence at the Mexican border, Boeing needs some breathing room.
After solving this southern border fence problem they might want to catch up with Airbus to design a suitable and competitive tanker for in air refueling.
Both Senators Cantwell and Murray might want to hold their breath as the Air Force opted for optimum functioning without need to later do it all over again.
53 posted on 02/29/2008 8:11:20 PM PST by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“Washington Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, both Democrats, along with six other lawmakers from the state said in a joint statement: “We are outraged that this decision taps European Airbus and its foreign workers to provide a tanker to our American military.”

As though these two hacks ever cared about the U.S. Military. This is so rich.


54 posted on 02/29/2008 8:13:39 PM PST by He'sComingBack!
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To: ROTB

A lot more than 7000, I would think. The GE engines are made in Ohio and elsewhere in the US. Those manufacturing parts and doing the assembly would be at least 25-30k, Any less than that and they could fly it from Frogistan. lol


55 posted on 02/29/2008 8:15:40 PM PST by WildcatClan (Real Marxism you can believe in. Yes, we can. Si, se puede.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The tanker will be built in the U.S.by U.S.workers.Many parts will also be bought or built in the U.S.
E.A.D.S already has a prototype with a boom.Boeing does not not have the boom yet.
EADS will also build freighters and commercial planes in Mobile.

Why so much concern when there is Target,Thyssenkrupp,Mercedes,Hyundai and CSX.The Saudis have 850 billion invested in
U.S.businesses.


56 posted on 02/29/2008 8:16:41 PM PST by hubno (hub)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Let me guess, the workers will be paid in Ameros, right?


57 posted on 02/29/2008 8:18:47 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: DennisR
What happened to the Buy American Act?

TITLE 41 > CHAPTER 1 > § 10a. American materials required for public use
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, and unless the head of the department or independent establishment concerned shall determine it to be inconsistent with the public interest, or the cost to be unreasonable, only such unmanufactured articles, materials, and supplies as have been mined or produced in the United States, and only such manufactured articles, materials, and supplies as have been manufactured in the United States substantially all from articles, materials, or supplies mined, produced, or manufactured, as the case may be, in the United States, shall be acquired for public use. This section shall not apply with respect to articles, materials, or supplies for use outside the United States, or if articles, materials, or supplies of the class or kind to be used or the articles, materials, or supplies from which they are manufactured are not mined, produced, or manufactured, as the case may be, in the United States in sufficient and reasonably available commercial quantities and of a satisfactory quality. This section shall not apply to manufactured articles, materials, or supplies procured under any contract the award value of which is less than or equal to the micro-purchase threshold under section 428 of this title.
58 posted on 02/29/2008 8:42:06 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Plane_Guy
So the problem is lack of vision by Boeing engineers and marketing staff? WTF? Unions? They better get their sh*t together.....they better get motivated and compete....Vince Lombardi needs to be running Boeing...
59 posted on 02/29/2008 8:45:45 PM PST by homeguard ((Charlie Don't Surf!))
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To: ROTB

most of the news reports say Mobile will get 1500 jobs, 2000 tops. Only a fraction of what France is getting.


60 posted on 02/29/2008 8:48:33 PM PST by blue state conservative
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