Air Force goes European with new refueling planes

Hot Air ^ | March 01, 2008 | by Ed Morrissey

[dragnet2]

Did you watch no news yesterday? The only plant in American involved with manufacturing of this plane is the one in Alabama.

With Northrop based in California, this means 7,500 jobs for California, which will be producing all the parts for these aircraft.

Northrop Grumman’s KC-30 Tanker Team Will Support 7,500 California Jobs and Generate Economic Activity Exceeding $360 Million Annually

http://www.northropgrumman.com/kc30/benefits/impact.html

[dr_who_2]

Boeing is not “the country”. And anyone who implies that is no patriot. I would sooner trust the USAF to speak for “the country”, particularly on the subject of what organization is the most qualified to refuel USAF planes, than boobs like yourself.

[nyconse]

Wrong- read the post I gave you...all parts will be produced in Europe-only assembly and modification in Alabama. No jobs for California.

[dragnet2]

It appears that this will create a few thousands more jobs in California, than in Alabama.

[nyconse]

Boeing is an American company. Shafting American business for profit is indeed unpatriotic.

[FreeReign]

Yes your post is correct. Kansas and Squashinton state will not get the jobs. Shall I now list the jobs that will be generated in 28 states?

Let's start with Alabama.

Northrop Grumman, EADS and the KC-30 Supply Base Contributes $875 Million to Alabama's Economy Annually A KC-30 Win Will Result in a Total Economic Impact of More Than $1 Billion Annually A KC-30 Tanker Win Would Create an Additional 5,000 Jobs for Alabamians

Link

I have 27 other states to list.

[nyconse]

Really, where is the evidence?

[Brilliant]

Nah. Boeing has a huge backlog in commercial aircraft.

[nyconse]

Really, where is the evidence of this?

[dragnet2]

Feel free to look at the company's link.

http://www.northropgrumman.com/kc30/benefits/impact.htmlCalifornia

Northrop Grumman’s KC-30 Tanker Team Will Support 7,500 California Jobs and Generate Economic Activity Exceeding $360 Million Annually Dec 17, 2007—Northrop Grumman Corporation's KC-30 Tanker team will generate economic activity exceeding $360 million annually and support more than 7,500 direct and indirect jobs in California if the KC-30 Tanker aircraft is selected by the U.S. Air Force. "As you know, California has a long history of supporting our armed forces and fostering the defense and aerospace industries that sustain our nation’s military,” said California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. “If selected for production of the KC-30 Tankers, Northrop Grumman will add the next generation of military technology and aircraft to its already

[nyconse]

Well jobs will be lost in Kansas.

[straps]

To educate you quite a bit. Its not done like that since 1943. Boeing has been selling aircraft for years without ever flying a simple model. They did it with the B29,the B47,The B52.
And guess what they did it with the 747 also.
I worked at PanAM till it went out of business because we had 58 vice presidents count them 58. Anyway after Boeing had sold enough planes to cover its expenses of a prototype they built one aircraft and flew it to New York. We did not have Hanger 19 built yet. ( 747 overhaul facility holds 4 each 747s inside with the doors shut) So we towed it into hgr 17 after we had painted the size of the aircraft on the hanger floor. We had to leave 1/3 of the aircraft outside the doors. When we opened the log bokk ( All things wrong with the aircraft ) there were over 350 items not functioning. It only had seats in the front half of the aircraft. They dont build test flight aircraft any more except for Govts they are too expensive. Besides computer design is so much more fool proof.

Reference your remarks about the fuel bladders on the lower lobe of the 747 they were built that way for the Imperial Iranian Air Force ( 3 aircraft ) when the Shah was in control they used to fly the Atlantic with a boom under the tail and refuel every bodys aircraft gaining expertise for there crews. They would ron at McGuire in the 70s and the crew would take 16 containers to the Sears store in wrightstown and buy every electronic thing and fill the containers and put them back in the aircraft and fly a few missions with the USAF back to Iran drop the containers off and go do it again. The beauty of that aircraft was it totally was interchangable with the civilian 747 part for part. Boeing used 2 freighters that were awaiting sale to a asian country and Iran offered them cash with a few extra bucks and they were sold to The Shah.Once in a while they the IIAF would hire off duty PanAm mechanics to come to McGuire to fix there aircraft.
A great aircraft still in high demand today.....

[nyconse]

This is an advertisement. The plane will be made mostly in Europe.

[SoCal Pubbie]

“The KC-45A will be built by a world-class industrial team led by Northrop Grumman, and includes primary subcontractor EADS North America and General Electric Aviation, Sargent Fletcher, Honeywell, Parker, AAR Cargo Systems, Telephonics and Knight Aerospace.”

http://www.irconnect.com/noc/press/pages/news_releases.html?d=137410

I believe these are all American companies save for EADS North America, which is the local subsidiary of that European firm.

[nyconse]

Only assembly and modification in Alabama. Part will be made in Europe. Northop is a front man so it can be claimed to have been made in America.

[FreeReign]

Arizona is next alphabetically.

Northrop Grumman's KC-30 Tanker Team Will Create 1,000 Aerospace Jobs and Generate Economic Activity Approaching $80 Million Annually in Arizona MELBOURNE, Fla., Nov. 26, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Northrop Grumman Corporation's (NYSE:NOC) KC-30 Tanker team will generate economic activity nearing $80 million annually and create 1,000 new jobs in Arizona if the KC-30 Tanker aircraft is selected by the U.S. Air Force. Northrop Grumman, EADS, and the KC-30 Tanker supply chain currently support 15,000 jobs statewide and generate a combined economic activity exceeding $4 billion annually. Northrop Grumman and teammate EADS invest more than $250 million annually in Arizona, while KC-30 supplier companies inject more than $1 billion into the economy each year. Northrop Grumman's current workforce in Arizona represents more than $60 million in annual wages. Northrop Grumman's KC-30 Tanker supply base in Arizona will include:

-- Goodrich Corporation; Phoenix
-- Honeywell; Phoenix, Tempe, Tucson, Ariz.
-- L3 Communications; Phoenix
-- American Aerospace Tech Castings; Phoenix
-- Intec EDM; Tempe, Ariz.
-- Parker Seal - CSS Division; Tempe, Ariz.

Link

I can do 26 more states if you would like.

[Polybius]

The Air Force snubbed longtime partner Boeing and awarded a lucrative contract to Northrop and EADS, the European maker of the Airbus

Well of course the Bush Administration Air Force gave the bid to foreigners!

Imagine a U.S. military where only Boeing aircraft ever existed and these Northrop/Grumman aircraft never did.

F6F Hellcat

A6 Intruder

F-14 Tomcar

FA-18 Hornet

B2 Spirit

Northrop Grumman is as American as Motherhood, Apple Pie and the American flag raising at Iwo Jima (during which battle their aircraft provided air cover).

[dragnet2]

We just heard last night, all the parts for this aircraft will be produced in Cal, creating over 7,500 jobs here. The company’s link has the same number.

[dragnet2]

You don't seem to get it. The company site even shows there will be more jobs created in California than Alabama.

You asked for evidence, I gave it to you.

[FreeReign]

Well jobs will be lost in Kansas.

Actually to say that jobs will be lost in Kansas is a little misleading. More specifically jobs won't be "generated" in Kansas.