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To: Red Badger

As a kid, my dad’s ‘79 Rabbit Diesel got 55 MPG. We had our own fueling tank at home. We were all set.

Seems that 14 MPG improvement is not much in 30 years.


18 posted on 03/05/2008 10:56:51 AM PST by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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To: Notwithstanding

The emissions are quite an improvement, though.


21 posted on 03/05/2008 10:59:40 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Notwithstanding

The problems have been with environmental controls. That took mileage away. Now with new technology, common rail fuel injection, piezo fuel injectors, extreme high pressure pumps and computer controls those problems have been overcome............


23 posted on 03/05/2008 11:03:11 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Notwithstanding
Seems that 14 MPG improvement is not much in 30 years

You're completely right, but remember improvements like that become exponentially more difficult.

Also, the new TDI is a vastly better vehicle than the 79 Rabbit.

In the late '70s, American car company management were afraid to put 4-speeds into higher production, because they were convinced that the average person would not or could not drive something so complicated (really). Now we are talking about 7 speeds -- automatics, I'm sure, but this kind of complexity used to be dismissed at the outset.

And that was a rational thing. The reliability was not good enough then. Now it is.

The high price of oil will do what it is supposed to: make alternatives realistic. It will now remain for Western consumers to break through the psychological barriers, and opt for the technical solutions. There will certainly be mis-starts and technologies that are not right, but once the barrier is breached, a real solution will emerge.

Oil may go down in price again, but the point about high mileage vehicles is that they are a hedge against price volatility.

26 posted on 03/05/2008 11:06:35 AM PST by Regulator (We Are Sooooooo Screwed)
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To: Notwithstanding

Seems that 14 MPG improvement is not much in 30 years.

Except that thirty years later the New Golf is heavier and much faster that the wabbit of ‘79

Lurking’


83 posted on 03/05/2008 6:37:44 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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