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Exit Poll: McCain Still Not Attracting Evangelicals
CNSNews.com ^ | March 06, 2008 | Josiah Ryan

Posted on 03/06/2008 9:56:03 PM PST by kingattax

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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I won’t be bothered by your ‘point.’ :)


121 posted on 03/07/2008 1:48:08 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: Content Provider
Thanks for that image. I’ve been holding onto a RNC business reply postage paid donation envelope, waiting for something appropriate to drop into it. A brick didn’t fit.

It's what I've been using, whenever they send me another one of those darling "Return Postage Pre-Paid" envelopes, ever since Mrs. Vicente Fox's ascension to the status of Anointed One became assured.

There have been, literally, at least a dozen such requests, thus far; a sad necessity brought about, doubtless, by the fact that Juan's oft-ballyhooed "super-coalition" of non-conservatives hasn't been doing jack-all for him $$$-wise, thus far:

Ah, well. "Lie down with dogs," as they say... ;)

122 posted on 03/07/2008 1:51:53 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: ari-freedom
I won’t be bothered by your ‘point.’ :)

You thought that was intended to "bother" you, somehow? Seriously?

I see Team Juan's online pom-pom squadron shares their chosen messiah's (justly) fabled prickliness and thinness-of-skin. Ah, well. ;)

123 posted on 03/07/2008 1:54:22 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: ari-freedom

That policy on his website is a good one, for the most part. So where is the McCain - (Democrat’s name) Energy Reform bill?

It doesn’t exist. And the reason it doesn’t exist is that McCain does not really understand the engineering and economic issues involved. By his own admission he doesn’t understand the economics; and by his support of the global warming agenda we can confidently infer that he’s ignorant on the engineering side as well.

Moreover, given his record, there is no reason to assume that if he did put his priorities in proper order, than any solution he would advocate would make anything any better. So far, the solutions to which his name are attached are awful: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, etc. The longer the list of his policies one inspects, the fewer differences one finds between him and Hillary Clinton. Perhaps the prime distinguishing feature is that McCain gets along better with Democrats than the Clintons do, but that’s not a real big selling point for me.


124 posted on 03/07/2008 1:59:06 AM PST by Content Provider
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To: roamer_1

pushing tariffs is a big deal breaker for many conservatives. Hunter is a patriot but he didn’t make a clear stand against the pork barrel politics.

Many freepers thought Fred was the true conservative. But they should have been against him because the one major bill he co-sponsored in the Senate was mccain-feingold.


125 posted on 03/07/2008 2:00:55 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: Content Provider
The longer the list of his policies one inspects, the fewer differences one finds between him and Hillary Clinton.

They're young. They're in love.

(Well... "young" as compared to -- oh, say -- the Grand Canyon, at any rate.) ;)

126 posted on 03/07/2008 2:02:21 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Content Provider

it’s not govt’s job to find an engineering solution. The market should find it on its own.

This whole cap and trade thing is just a way to move everyone away from oil. It just so happens to make people like Al Gore happy.


127 posted on 03/07/2008 2:08:41 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I thought you like to bother mccain supporters :)


128 posted on 03/07/2008 2:10:22 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: ari-freedom

Tariffs are a deal-breaker for some, but I would not say it is accurate to describe that group as “conservatives”. The US industrial power was built behind a wall of tariff protections.


129 posted on 03/07/2008 2:11:30 AM PST by Content Provider
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To: ari-freedom
it’s not govt’s job to find an engineering solution. The market should find it on its own.

The market does find its own, but it must do so in the context of government regulations. Our government currently says that you can't exploit new sources of domestic energy, nor can you put up any new refineries or nuclear power plants. The market is acting appropriately - prices are rising due to the severe restrictions on supply.

So the market is already doing its job. The issue that needs to be resolved is the government action that limits what the market can do. You cannot get this from a "global warming" candidate.

130 posted on 03/07/2008 2:15:21 AM PST by Content Provider
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To: Content Provider

McCain has a 100% rating from cato on trade. I guess that will never make you happy but it is one of the reasons why I am FOR mcCain instead of just being against Obama.


131 posted on 03/07/2008 2:18:26 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: ari-freedom
I thought you like to bother mccain supporters :)

I enjoy pointing out the sad and ugly truth, re: Juan "Anything-For-A-Peso" McCain: the dangerously self-adoring fool murderously intent upon rendering the good, decent citizens of this nation permanently at risk, by irrevocanly destroying the sovereignity (and usefulness) of our borders. It's solely up to the dogged members of Juan's own online hallelujah choir, hereabouts, as to whether they choose to find that "bothersome" or not.

Won't do them a damned lick of good either way, obviously... but: they do have the option open to 'em, nonetheless. ;)

132 posted on 03/07/2008 2:18:49 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Content Provider

the market is not going to move away from oil on its own, even if you allowed nuclear plants.

The reason why everyone is talking about alternative energy today and not the gas guzzling SUV’s of the 90’s is because the price of oil is much much higher.


133 posted on 03/07/2008 2:21:57 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: SatinDoll; ari-freedom
Think, man! How do we wake them up?

Tell everybody how good McCain will be on terrorism.

John McCain armed Kosovo Islamic terrorists

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

Tell them how much he will do for the troops.

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides

134 posted on 03/07/2008 2:22:41 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I don’t have any better options.


135 posted on 03/07/2008 2:23:26 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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To: ari-freedom

I choose to judge the matter for myself rather than rely on what others say. My opinion is that our country needs to rebuild its manufacturing base for both economic and military reasons, and that this is probably best done using tariffs on industrial and strategic goods. It is not a bad thing to prefer the business of one’s own countrymen by a few percent over foreigners, and, as it is a preferable source of revenue for the government, it could fund a cut in domestic taxation.


136 posted on 03/07/2008 2:26:31 AM PST by Content Provider
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To: wardaddy
I do hope McCain throws us a bone with a good VP which will be crucial given his years.

Exactly the point of my rantings and ravings. I think loud protest at this point is the best tool we have at our disposal to hopefully sway such a selection.

Hopefully GOP leaders who "actually work for the GOP and not the DNC" are looking at their dry coffers about now thinking "Oh JEEZ..."

The Veep choice here is going to be the significant motivating factor in compelling any conservative to support, donate to or vote for McCain. At this point I'm still sending empty envelopes back with "NADA" and such written on the donation letters.

And regardless of the results, it's going to be a very difficult thing to get people to part with their principles when it comes to McCain. He's GOT to make the right choice here.

Only stupefying arrogance would make him ignore what's at stake. At some level, he's got to realize the middle and left will drop him when it comes down to the actual vote.

137 posted on 03/07/2008 2:28:47 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TigersEye; Lijahsbubbe
Did you see post #49... WHOAH! It just keeps getting worse.
I just pulled upt the full article and citation.

McCain's Senior Team - questions about John McCain's foreign policy plans
Insight on the News, March 13, 2000 by J. Michael Waller

(snip)

National-security issues, which McCain sees as one of his strongest points, may end up being his Achilles' heel. Already there is concern among his conservative friends that McCain may lack the disposition to command, showing an uncertain sense of purpose and outright bad political judgment.

"What's the first thing you would do as president?" the Detroit News recently asked McCain.

"The first thing I would do," the candidate answered, "is call in John Kerry, Bob Kerrey, Joe Biden, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, Dick Lugar, Chuck Hagel and several others and say we've got to get foreign-policy, national-security issues back on track."

That statement ricocheted through cyberspace, with Washington national-security experts wondering, "Is McCain nuts?" The formula doesn't compute:

138 posted on 03/07/2008 2:34:16 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ari-freedom

The reason the market doesn’t want to move off oil is because there’s nothing out there that is competitive. Where there is - it is already in use (hydro). Nuclear power is uncompetitive only because of the regulatory restrictions upon it.

The reason you hear talk about alternative energy today is government money. None of these alternatives would be competitive on their own.

Oil is proven and oil works. Oil results in a whole host of other products from refinery byproducts, for which we will need to refine oil whether or not that oil is used as an energy source. In addition to being a source of energy, oil is also a storage medium, something which other forms of power have to convert at sever loss (into hydrogen as proposed). There is nothing else available that can supply energy on a scale sufficient to have a significant impact our economy’s needs except for hydro (fully exploited in the US), coal (restricted by law), and nuclear (effectively banned by law).

And it just so happens that the US has a ton of the stuff, if only the government gave permission for someone to go and get it.


139 posted on 03/07/2008 2:34:18 AM PST by Content Provider
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To: Content Provider

it is still a tax increase and I don’t think you can pay for a tax cut by increasing taxes somewhere else. The money won’t show up.

The other problem is that it antagonizes the rest of the world when we should focus on the real bad guys. It makes Columbia and other Latin American countries weaker vs the socialist and drug threat of Venezuela.


140 posted on 03/07/2008 2:34:39 AM PST by ari-freedom (We need more conservatives like Buckley and fewer Coulters)
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