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Why I Don’t Support the Troops
Berkeley Daily Planet ^ | 2008-03-11 | Kenneth Thiesen

Posted on 03/13/2008 5:27:10 AM PDT by ricks_place

In the recent political battle around the Marine recruiting station in Berkeley there has been much confusion around the concept or slogan of “supporting the troops,” but opposing the unjust wars of the Bush regime. Many who oppose the Bush regime wars also say they “support the troops.” Let me say it straight out—I do not support the troops and neither should you. It is objectively impossible to support the troops of the imperialist military forces of the U.S. and at the same time oppose the wars in which they fight.

The United States has over 700 military bases or sites located in over 130 foreign countries. The hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in these countries are not there to preserve or foster freedom and democracy as the Bush regime would like to claim, but to maintain U.S. imperialist domination of the world. The United States now spends more on its military than all the other nations of the world combined.

If you “support the troops” in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the other more than 100 countries in which they are located, you also objectively support U.S. hegemony in the world. I believe that the vast majority of people who say they support the troops do not wish to support U.S. imperialism, but that is what they are really doing by putting forth the slogan of “support the troops.”

We need to oppose the recruitment of men and women into the military. We need to support resisters within the military who have realized what they are doing and now choose to resist the role of the U.S. military. This includes people such as Lt. Ehren Watada who refused to deploy to Iraq. Watada stated, “Never did I imagine my president would lie to go to war, condone torture, spy on Americans…” He was the first officer to refuse to go to Iraq and he was court-martialed. Another resister is Camilo Mejia. In 2004 Sergeant Mejia was sentenced to one year in prison when he was court-martialed for refusing to assist the military in Iraq. Mejia said, “I am only a regular person that got tired of being afraid to follow his own conscience. For far too long I allowed others to direct my actions even when I knew that they were wrong....”

We need to expose that those in the U.S. military are trained to be part of a “killing machine.” While not every member of the military is an individual murderer, they are all part of a system that commits war crimes, including aggressive wars, massacres, rape, and other crimes against humanity, all in the service of U.S. imperialism. The bottom line is that even if these people are relatives or friends, you can not support the troops without also supporting the objective role that these troops play in the imperialist system.

United States troops are acting as destructive and murderous forces of invasion and occupation. The people of Iraq and Afghanistan see this on a daily basis. Hundreds of thousands have died as a direct result of the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Millions are either internal or external refugees. Tens of thousands have been detained in prisons, with thousands of these tortured and scores murdered. Haditha, Iraq where 24 Iraqis were massacred is just the best known of the massacres. Women and children are routinely described as “collateral damage” by military spokespersons when they are murdered in military operations.

“Support for the troops” has become political cover to support the wars. In Congress, many of those who claim they oppose the wars, use “support of the troops” to vote for hundreds of millions of dollars to fund the wars. These politicians are political opportunists, but there are also people who genuinely oppose the war, but who also say “I support the troops.”

But to decide whether U.S. troops deserve support you must analyze what they actually do in countries occupied by the U.S. The wars these troops are engaged in have the goal of maintaining and extending U.S. hegemony throughout the world. They are unjust, illegal, and immoral wars. Can you support the troops in these wars? Why is this any different from a German in World War II saying, “I oppose the wars launched by Hitler, but I support the troops of the German army which are making these wars possible.” When the Marines in Haditha massacred Iraqis, including women and children, would it have been correct to say I supported the Marines who killed those people, but not the massacre? This would be ridiculous, but no more so than supporting the troops engaged in the war that made the Haditha massacre possible in the first place.

In 1933 Marine Major General Smedley Butler clarified the role of the U.S. military. He stated, “War is just a racket…It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses…I spent 33 years and four months in active military service as a member of this country’s most agile military force, the Marine Corps…In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism...”

Like Butler, Watada, and Mejia, those in the military today must take responsibility for what the military does. Just like the German soldiers of World War 2 could not hide behind the “I was just following orders” excuse, military personnel today also can not hide behind it. Those of us who oppose the unjust wars of the Bush regime must struggle with those in the military and those that support them to expose what role the troops objectively play. Supporting the troops engaged in making war against other nations and people on behalf of U.S. imperialism is not acceptable.

Oakland resident Kenneth J. Theisen is an organizer with the World Can’t Wait! Drive Out the Bush Regime!


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; assclown; demposition; liberals
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Many who oppose the Bush regime wars also say they “support the troops.” Let me say it straight out—I do not support the troops and neither should you.
1 posted on 03/13/2008 5:27:11 AM PDT by ricks_place
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You got to give him credit for being honest. What an ass.


2 posted on 03/13/2008 5:29:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (Reagan would have never said "She's my girl")
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Troops deserve support because they protect your sorry ass Mr. Theisen. Whether or not wars are judged to be "just" is irrelevant.
3 posted on 03/13/2008 5:30:38 AM PDT by period end of story
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“The United States has over 700 military bases or sites located in over 130 foreign countries. “

Is this guy even old enough to remember WHY we have so many bases in the first place?


4 posted on 03/13/2008 5:31:24 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: ricks_place

Is this guy Ted Rall’s boyfriend???


5 posted on 03/13/2008 5:31:48 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Where are they hiding Obama’s white half?)
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To: ricks_place

Only in America could this subversive write/say this and survive.


6 posted on 03/13/2008 5:32:19 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: ricks_place

In 1933 Marine Major General Smedley Butler clarified the role of the U.S. military. He stated, “War is just a racket…It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses…I spent 33 years and four months in active military service as a member of this country’s most agile military force, the Marine Corps…In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism...”

By quoting this General who made his statement prior to WWII the writer makes clear that he believes the liberation of Europe and Asia were wars of US aggression. In other words, the author feels there is no role for the US in any foreign war no matter the provocation.


7 posted on 03/13/2008 5:34:37 AM PDT by saganite
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Did he oppose the “Clinton regime wars” as vocally? I don’t recall any opposition to Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia or Haiti. This jackass acts as if all our bases overseas were established in the last seven years. People like him are parasites on our society. They enjoy all our freedoms and spit in our face. There is a special place in hell reserved for vermin like Mr. Thiesen.


8 posted on 03/13/2008 5:35:15 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Lion Den Dan

In the 40s he’d have been tried for treason and hung.


9 posted on 03/13/2008 5:35:30 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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In 1933 Marine Major General Smedley Butler clarified the role of the U.S. military. He stated, “War is just a racket…It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

Many American blacks were freed from slavery by the Civil War. Millions of European Jews were saved from death by the Allied victory in WWII. The list could go on and on.

War is not just a racket to benefit only a few. That is just old communist propaganda.

10 posted on 03/13/2008 5:36:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Is this guy Ted Rall’s boyfriend???

I think it is Ron Paul using a pen name.
11 posted on 03/13/2008 5:36:43 AM PDT by John D
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To: Lion Den Dan

I’m sure he can get an apartment in Moscow.


12 posted on 03/13/2008 5:36:45 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: ricks_place

This guy is incredibly ignorant of all matters military. He needs to read a little military history and learn how relatively good our military has been through out the course of our 200 plus years of existence, compared to virtually every other army that’s ever existed. If he CAN read, that is.


13 posted on 03/13/2008 5:38:28 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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Writing in the Planet?

WHICH planet?

Moonbat POS.

14 posted on 03/13/2008 5:38:44 AM PDT by DocH (hillary, hussein, and juan - what kind of choice is THAT? God help us.)
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Well there Kenneth Thiesen nobody out side of Berkeley gives a rat's ass what you think. BTW jerk wad the troops still support your right to make a complete ass of yourself.
15 posted on 03/13/2008 5:39:25 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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“The hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in these countries are not there to preserve or foster freedom and democracy as the Bush regime would like to claim...”

So, BUSH put ALL those troops there? I think not. The U.S. has had troops all over the world since just WWII.

If it’s such a horrible thing, why didn’t the Democrat heros Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter or Clinton I bring them all home? Or were their presidencies “regimes” also?

What a narrow minded world view this poor intellectually unfortunate individual has.


16 posted on 03/13/2008 5:39:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: ricks_place

You should see Mr. Thiessen’s website...total leftist idiocy.


17 posted on 03/13/2008 5:40:00 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Perdogg
"You got to give him credit for being honest."

Indeed...his idiocy is consistent across the boards.

18 posted on 03/13/2008 5:40:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ricks_place

It just goes to show, just because you are educated doesn’t mean you can apply it intelligently...


19 posted on 03/13/2008 5:40:19 AM PDT by DB
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To: Lion Den Dan
Only in America could this subversive write/say this and survive.

Thanks to the Bush regime and the U.S. imperialist domination of the world!

20 posted on 03/13/2008 5:40:39 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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