President Bush Considers Biodiesel Most Promising Fuel to Meet Renewable Fuel Standard Requirements

www.biofuelsjournal.com ^ | 03-12-2008 | Staff

[ScratInTheHat]

Fuel from organics is a pipedream.

It will be no pipe dream. Biotech companies are working on it today.

Subsidized pipedreams are still pipedreams

[vaudine]

I see what you mean, but consider the two part of the same problem. Diesel used to be cheaper than regular; now, it is the most expensive fuel--thanks Jimmuh Carter, because most of our diesel came from Iran.

If the algae thing works, we should go for it. Meanwhile, we still need to drill and build.

vaudine

[BoneHead]

Yes if you use food stock. But you can use blue green algae and select the particular specie for your fuel type:

During a 90 day continual production test, algae was being harvested at an average of one gram (dry weight) per liter. This equates to algae bio mass production of 276 tons of algae per acre per year. Achieving the same biomass production rate with an algal species having 50% lipids (oil) content would therefore deliver approximately 33,000 gallons of algae oil per acre per year.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Yes if you use food stock.

Like I said, we need to starve as many poor people as possible as quickly as possible, so go for it!

Let's show them once and for all how much America cares!

[ScratInTheHat]

I don't agree. If drilling starts at same time, there will be plenty of domestic oil.

Go here and look at the charts. You will see that domestic production is going down at a steady rate.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/EnergyandEnvironment/EneryCharts.cfm

The best we could hope for even if we leveled off consumption is that we keep the domestic from dropping as fast because all the time we are working to bring the new fields online the US production will continue to fall.

In the US and world wide proven reserves consumed have been outstripping new proven reserves since 1983.

In other words if we drill every well we know about it still would not keep up with consumption.

[Texas Mulerider]

Google "widescale biodiesel production from algae" and read physics professor Michael Briggs' study.

I'm convinced micro algae is the most promising source of renewable oil. It can optimally produce 15,000 gallons/acre/year, as opposed to corn (15 gallons/acre/year) or soybeans (48 gallons/acre/year). And it need not take one acre of productive farmland to do it.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I'm convinced micro algae is the most promising source of renewable oil.

I'm convinced that perpetual motion is the way to go.

It's even with algae in actual energy production right now.

[ScratInTheHat]

That sounds great. But you’re going to have to get that CornToEthanol bone out of the subsidies dog’s mouth

[Brilliant]

I think it is viable. Here in Orlando we have a lake, Lake Apopka, which is biologically dead, except that it’s filled with algae. That would be the perfect place to test this. I suspect that even though the lake is already polluted beyond belief, the environmentalists would object.

[vaudine]

All oil fields are finite and production is dropping because we are still producing in old fields. There are many fields not yet in production that are as yet unproven. The charts simply don't reflect because they do not know. Besides, I distrust the charts, which are probably produced by Greenpeace.

Speculation for ANWR, for instance, are all over the place, some extremely high. Given the geological history of the region, I would bet on the high.vaudine

[jnsun]

That sounds great. But you’re going to have to get that CornToEthanol bone out of the subsidies dog’s mouth

Of all the alternatives in the mix, biodiesel, coal, more drilling, nuclear, photovoltaics, dry rock geothermal; and there IS plenty of energy, it certainly seems to me the ethanol route is the least worthy.

Problem is it's easy. And you know them Senators, whatever makes them a quick return, regardless of the science, well ---

[taildragger]

ANWAR, Gulf and West Coast drilling now you DC political morons!

And off the the Cape (Shadenfraude Teddy Baby), Under the Great Lakes and off the Coast of Florida for Starters.

Read the latest Issue of "Inprimus" and see what a Cluster-fornication Jane Fonda and Jimmy Carter caused us. Yes she killed Nuke Power, but Carter stopped Breeders so they can't reuse the fuel ergo giving us Y'ucca Mountain. France has them and stores their fuel in a closet the volume is so low.

Watch T Boone Pickens.

He is a one of many featured speakers at an upcoming Alternative Fuel Conference with a heavy emphasis on "Gaseous" Fuels. IMHO they are the near future not this Ethanol Crap.

Beam me up Scotty, there is no intelligent life in the Beltway.....

[ScratInTheHat]

Of all the alternatives in the mix, biodiesel, coal, more drilling, nuclear, photovoltaics, dry rock geothermal; and there IS plenty of energy

Sorry but I can't agree with that. In order to keep or increase our current standard of living any of these alternates will have to be exploited at a 10 to 1 minimum to replace oil. Oil is just that good of an energy source and it's going to start declining in the near future. Everything points to that.

[ScratInTheHat]

ANWR will get drilled no matter what they say now.

When fuel gets tight enough Americans will scream for it to be done.

We can compare notes then. LOL

[Texas Mulerider]

I'm convinced that perpetual motion is the way to go. It's even with algae in actual energy production right now.

Maybe you should contact Shell and Chevron with your idea. Naive fools that they are, they've recently invested in algae production.

[anglian]

What is that a picture of?....

Borneo jungle being burned to make clearing for palm oil plantations to produce bio-fuel.

[R_Kangel]

I wonder how long it will be before we commit to using "beef based" fuel?

I heard you get about 50,000 miles per cow!

You also get about 72,000 miles per fuzzy kitten or puppy but of course using them for a fuel source is unacceptable because they aren't used for food or nutrition (at least not in America).

All kidding aside, I find it disturbing that food based fuels are gaining mega support without researching the global repercussions. Is it really more important to feed the fuel tank instead of the hungry citizenry with our food resources.

Maybe we should commit a zillion dollars to find a way to convert petroleum to food.

[anglian]

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2214

[21twelve]

I saw on the news that in the Seattle area, bio-diesel is at $5.05 per gallon.

[RightWhale]

Wait! Peanuts can do it. Grow peanuts!