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Obama struggles to limit damage in pastor row as white voters slip away
The Guardian ^ | Saturday March 22 2008 | Daniel Nasaw, Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 03/21/2008 7:53:03 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Eva

I read those. Since the dust up, I have heard Obama invoke the doctrine of social justice. Social justice is a term usually used to describe liberal theology in both Catholic and mainline protestant churches. That is smart of Obama because he is trying to give those in the MSM something to grab a hold of in his defense. . The social justice doctrine as I understand it usually comes from the teaching of Jesus, of which in the small sample of preaching that I have heard from Wright, I have not heard him invoke the name of Jesus. The Christianity taught in my experience is grounded in salvation through Christ and Christ as a personal saviour which comes from a reading of the Gospels which does not have to be terribly interpretative or a terribly profound reading. Obama is smart enough to know the MSM are his devoted allies and he is throwing some theology out for their consumption that chances are he h NEVER got in twenty years with Wright.


121 posted on 03/22/2008 4:53:11 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: Biblebelter

I disagree, I think that Wright instructed Obama to read Tillich and Niebuhr as a way to rationalize religion. I don’t know anyone who has read either of those theologians on their own, especially a non-Christian.


122 posted on 03/22/2008 5:03:12 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Biblebelter
I've come up with some interesting facts, first Wright's sermon's are sold through Essence Magazine, as non-fiction, right above Assata Shakur's book.

Second, is this passage from a Frontpage Mag article, which is especially relevant today.

n the book titled When Black Men Stand up for God, a collection of sermons and reflections on the Million Man March, Wright identifies Kwanzaa founder Maulana Karenga as an attendee of the rally.[13] In the end notes that follow a transcript of one of Wright's sermons, Karenga is described as "an internationally acclaimed social activist and scholar in Pan African Studies"; "the founder and creator of Kwanzaa, the well-known African American holiday"; and "the director of Pan African Studies and Visiting Lecturer in Ethnic Studies at the University of California, Riverside."[14] Unmentioned is the fact that Karenga is a self-identified "African socialist" whose "Seven Principles of Blackness," which are observed during Kwanzaa, are not only the Marxist precepts of parity and proletariat unity, but are also identical to those of the 1970s domestic terrorist group, the Symbionese Liberation Army. Nor is it noted that in 1971 Karenga was convicted of torturing two women who were members of United Slaves, a black nationalist cult he had established.

123 posted on 03/22/2008 6:13:17 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: sibb1213
>>I want a “typical White Person:” bumper sticker. Any for sale?

There's lots of TWP stuff at CafePress.

I like this:


124 posted on 03/23/2008 7:27:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Typical White American)
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To: Eva
I've come up with some interesting facts, first Wright's sermon's are sold through Essence Magazine, as non-fiction, right above Assata Shakur's book.

That is interesting but not surprising. I still think the most interesting story is, how, ABC and Fox got the DVD"s. Fox and ABC knows exactly what Wright has said. But they are television news organization and they do not have the time to bring the words from transcripts to the public. To do this would take an hour of time presented in documentary form. The video requires little other than the video. I have to believe ABC and Fox requested EVERY DVD that was available. They are only available through the church. They only got a small sampling. Wright decided if and WHEN the news organizations got the DVD's. Fox and ABC know there is more hate in those DVD's because they HAVE READ the transcripts. At this point, Fox and ABC do not want to ineffectively and clumsily point to the transcripts when they have hopes for more video.

125 posted on 03/23/2008 8:06:09 AM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: Biblebelter
I think that it is time to move on from the Wright connection, well not move on, but add to the Wright connection. We need to move the focus to the rest of Obama's campaign advisers, who are as equally left as Wright, though not as flamboyant.

Obama's campaign advisers

126 posted on 03/23/2008 12:48:26 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Eva
You may be right. The Jeremiah Wright story now hinges on three things:

1. Additional video from the time Obama attended the church.

2. Wright gives a sermon somewhere or he gives an interview.

3. A courageous MSM journalist takes on Oprah by trying to determine why she left the church, and smokes her out to the point where she has to make some kind of comment. Whatever, comment on that Oprah makes would be a bad story for Obama, because it would give Fox News a chance to replay the Wright tapes in another 3 or 4 day news cycle.

127 posted on 03/23/2008 3:31:40 PM PDT by Biblebelter (Oprah had better judgment that Barry, she left while the getting was good.)
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To: olivia3boys

40% of all voters are white males.


128 posted on 03/23/2008 3:50:00 PM PDT by FUMETTI (I am client one through eight, if you wanted to know....)
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To: GVnana

I think Ramirez is great.


129 posted on 03/24/2008 9:31:40 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: gogeo

Brilliant.


130 posted on 03/24/2008 11:20:56 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: FreedomPoster

I like that one too. Thanks.


131 posted on 03/25/2008 6:07:41 AM PDT by sibb1213
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