Posted on 03/26/2008 10:09:58 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
These programs typically offer assurances that the consenter won't face criminal charges if illegal firearms are found during the search of their residence. Stuff like bound coeds, closets full of marijuana or baggies stuffed with crack cocaine typicaly fall outside the parameters of the "Get Out of Jail Free" card.
"Sorry to bother you at 2:30AM sir, but we'd like your permission to check your house for contraband. No charges will be filed if you say 'yes'."
Would you give consent to such a search - yes or no?
exactly, and I’ll bet if a no answer is given to the “permission” question your name will be placed on a list that no legal gun owner wants to be on.
How about you dig up the actual factual answer to that question before waving around the emotional rhetoric?
I’d rewrite the first line, but it would probably get me banned.
Should it stay in Boston? I don’t think the time is right yet for the Big Bang.
If a parent has a right to give permission for the police to search, then the parent has a right to search. Why would any sensible person involve the police? Would you?
If there aren't going to be any charges filed, then what is the function of the police in these searches? Are you of the opinion that this program is valuable? I think it undermines respect for individual rights.
We have already lost our privacy with respect to our banking. Cash transactions over some amount that the institution might believe is "suspicious" obligate the bank to reveal details to the police that might indicate that a crime has been committed. If you have nothing to hide, why not allow the authorities free access to all your financial records?
Yes. As for a ‘secret list’ of people who say no, I think that you’re being paranoid.
Oops, sorry Ken H it was Bobby .223 who thinks there is a secret list.
Thanks for the straight, unhedged answer.
As for a "secret list" of people who say no, I think that you're being paranoid.
Would you cite where I said or implied anything about a "secret list"?
Disregard my last post:)
Ah! The old "narc on your neighbor" program.
If I remember right, the Hitler Youth participated in a program like that.
(Of course nobody would abuse that if they were just pissed off at somebody.)
Good gravy Beowulf9, is your “Enter” key busted?
:)
Heheh. No I stupidly left the ‘word wrap: ON’ on.
heheh, I would be surprised if anyone goes into that briar patch post of mine.
The root of the problem is right there in those few sentences.
No one says anything anymore. No one has the courage to say to these young thugs that what they are doing is wrong. No one seems to be able to summon the courage these days to teach their kids moral absolutes. They seem to have fallen out of fashion.
Parents today have lost the either the will or the know how of how to be parents. Today it appears to me that mothers and fathers prefer to be their childrens friend rather than their childrens parent. Consequently parents have lost all authority in their childrens minds because friends are equals and do not have authority over one another.
Too many children today grow up with out parents whether due to divorce, illegitimacy or abdication of responsibility. Unfortunately the program in question is not the answer. It could at best (if accepted by the populace) be a temporary fix. Unless we reestablish the family unit the problem this program seeks to fix will be with us until our entire society collapses.
Unless we teach our children to govern themselves only a despotic government will be able to govern our society. And only parents willing to be parents can teach children to govern themselves.
This program is another step down the road to the despotic government that the growing parentless society will force upon us.
Being denied RKBA, we are obliged to defer to “the authorities” who do little but take notes.
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