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To: Uhaul
This time I suspect the shia will win out.

They have won already, but are more magnanimous than you give them credit for.

The Kurds, as usual, will get screwed.

The Kurds are doing pretty well for themselves, and have demonstrated they can take care of themselves.

The losers are the Sunnis. They were a minority before siding with the terrorists and starting the insurgency. After all their fighting they are about half the population they were, and those who are left are ready to strike a political deal for whatever they can manage - which won't be much but will be more than their population percentage will warrant.

45 posted on 03/31/2008 8:03:23 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
“They have won already, but are more magnanimous than you give them credit for. “

Ummm your grasp of history is flawed. The only thing keeping the bottle on the toothpaste tube are coalition forces.

“The Kurds are doing pretty well for themselves, and have demonstrated they can take care of themselves.”

The Kurds are completely surrounded by highly hostile forces. Without our direct supprot the Kurds will be put on their knees. Again. They don't have the resources to do much other than die well.

Your grasp of history is flawed.

“They were a minority before siding with the terrorists and starting the insurgency. ”

This hasn't got an effing thing to do with “starting the insurgency”. This isn't conventional war and isn't even conventional unconventional war. It is a religious war - islam against infidel and islamic sects against each other.
It is tribal, it is regionally political and it is geopolitical. Where do you get this stuff - from the Bush Whitehouse? The fighting will never stop there if we leave, unless one side absolutely brutalizes the other, and will only (mostly) shift to another theater if we do not.

It is NEVER going to be a nice place. It is NEVER going to be civilized. You are pissing in the wind - while wasting someone else's blood and all of our treasure. Even if we are successful in making them nice and democratic it will have NO effect on jihad worldwide. Feel good liberalism at its finest.

49 posted on 04/01/2008 7:18:07 PM PDT by Uhaul
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