The School Crotch Inspector - Fighting the Advil menace, one strip search at a time

Reason ^ | April 2, 2008 | Jacob Sullum

[AndyJackson]

You have been called intellectually dishonest (not me) morally bankrupt(me) enabler of authoritarian miscreants (me), and a sociopathic mind (not me) wedded to power constructs (not me), inter alia [which is Latin for among other things, meaning that others have passed other despicable judgments on the morality or tenability of your positions]. If you were a man you would leap across the room, grab the keyboard and hurl unrestrained invective and obscenities at the lot of us. Go ahead. We deserve it.

[TigersEye]

Very well stated once again. I agree entirely. I applaud the young woman, and she is a young woman now having had the child’s view of privacy and security stripped from her, and her parents for their courage in fighting for what’s right. They could have chosen to let it go in order to keep this incident from becoming more widely known and let it slip into a bad but fading memory. Freedom is not free and the price paid is not always blood and the warriors who pay the price are not always stout young men trained for battle. And it shouldn’t be and it can’t be because not all freedoms can be secured that way.

[Mojave]

Sidney R. Thomas - Clinton - our hero on the side of individual rights.

Clinton and his leftwing judicial appointment are your heros?

Figures.

[Mojave]

I did and I am NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DECISION

You haven't read it.

[Mojave]

If you were a man you would leap across the room, grab the keyboard and hurl unrestrained invective and obscenities at the lot of us.

You have strange beliefs about what a man is. Among other things.

[TigersEye]

Darn. Those pesky facts always get in the way of a good argument!

Not for those who are willing to pick and choose facts and act like a smug jackass about it.

[AndyJackson]

You cannot even read, can you. My post 611 inter alia [which is Latin for there are a lot of other posts with lots of facts.] contains the Court of Appeals summation of the relevant facts. The issue in question here is not the facts as related by the Court of Appeals, which we all accept on their face, but rather that the Court of Appeals panel (less one heroic hold-out, surprising since he is a Clinton appointee) is as morally blind as you are.

[AndyJackson]

You have strange beliefs about what a man is.

Well, we can debate what a man is. I use your fine instance as an example for all to behold of what a man is not.

[TigersEye]

Go ahead. We deserve it.

No we don't. We're right about it.

[AndyJackson]

You haven't read it.

Yes we all read the decision. You just click on the link and there it is for anyone to read who can read. Clearly you can't read any better than you can think.

[Mojave]

My post 611 inter alia

I posted 611.

Take a few deep breaths.

[Mojave]

Don’t be a sore loser.

[AndyJackson]

No we don't

It's kitty bait. Sooner or later I am going to incite this moral deficient example of whithered manhood into springing on it. Anyone who thinks a strip search of a teenage girl for Advil is appropriate lacks the sense of discrimination, self-control and sense of self-preservation required to keep himself alive. It is merely a matter of time.

[Mojave]

Yes we all read the decision.

I don't believe you.

[AndyJackson]

611

I meant 617, but clearly you didn't read it.

[Mojave]

Sooner or later I am going to incite this moral deficient example of whithered manhood into springing on it.

Even as a troll, you failed.

[TigersEye]

Next you’ll be taken to task for spelling errors. The pettiness of a sociopathic statist is unlimited. Somewhere there is a cosmic chalkboard where he gets another 1/10,000th of a point. For what exactly no sane person could tell you.

[Mojave]

I meant 617

Where you begged the meaning of "force".

You're too easy.

[AndyJackson]

Don’t be a sore loser.

Lose what? You have yet to make an argument about anything. What is YOUR position. Not your position on my position, or your position on someone else's position. We want to know YOUR position.

As a start, can we agree with the definition of "strip," i.e.

1. To remove clothing or covering from. 2. To deprive of (clothing or covering)

If you agree with that definition then can you assert which of the following facts you disagree with:

• Ms Redding stripped
• Ms Redding was forced by the authorities of the state to strip
• Ms redding did not just strip down to underwhere, but as set forth by the COA in its statement of facts in post 617, was forced to reveal brests and genitals to the state authorities.
• the purpose of this search was to find the source of Advil

[AndyJackson]

Where you begged the meaning of "force".

I begged nothing. I cited the dictionary definition of force, which comports with the acts of the officials who forced her to strip so they could search her. The court did not state that she volunteered to remove her clothing, but rather an official of the school directed that she be searched and that she strip in aid of said search.