Posted on 04/02/2008 3:39:20 PM PDT by neverdem
Oh I’ve been known to lose my temper but of the two of us he would be the one to get really violent. I would just call our lawyer on the way to the school. I might even call the cops & tell them my child’s rights were violated. Its so good to have a lawyer as your child’s Godfather. I think the school is going to give a BIG sigh of good riddance at the end of this year.
In a nutshell, rp got banned and mojave stepped up to fill the void.
RP and Mojave have no problem with government employees coercing a 13 year old girl into exposing her privates in search of nonexistent Advil tablets because of another girl's uncorroborated accusation. RP was ZOTted because he blew a fuse and has sent Mojave here to defend his defenseless and ridiculous position.
Okay. I’ll bite. What job are you hunting?
That works.
Yada, yada, yada!
Yes it does & I am going to tell that vp & nurse just what I think of them too while I am at it. Freedom of speech ya know, however I will be very polite as I am doing it.
Your town’s school is doing it the right way- if drugs are suspected it is a problem for parents and LEOs, not the school. These schools that have lost their minds on witch hunts for contraband should be concerned about the education aspect and let the parents and LEO handle anything that is truly criminal.
Thanks :)
I went to bed last night, and to work today so I missed much more than you did- but I agree, all of you have done great!
The truly sad thing is it is not just a couple (or same) people on this thread that think schools have every right to do things like this- usually the court backs up the school in these incidents, so the schools just get farther and farther out there. I feel like a voice in the wilderness when I say "the school's job is to educate and leave the rest for parents and LEO unless there are very extreme circumstances" to me it is just common sense and schools did work that way for many years before all this foolishness.
If my child went to Safford schools I would ask them when was the last time they strip searched a teacher to see if they had advil? I'd be willing to bet many teachers, the secretary and nurse likely have advil or some thing in their purse that is against the zero tolerance.
Some school nurses are another problem area at schools. The nurse at my grandson’s school flipped out one day- called every one on his list to say he had a temp of 102 and needed to go to the ER, she didn’t even tell us that she had already contacted others in the family. It is amazing that the entire family didn’t show up at her office. My daughter raced to the school and the nurse brought out the wrong child to her while lecturing her about sending her son to school that sick. When my daughter unloaded on her about calling her about the wrong child- the secretary defended her by saying there were a lot of sick children that day and it was hard to keep track. What? If the nurse can’t keep her patients (students) straight she is not much of a nurse.
I have often thought that if so many normal people can be drug & alcohol tested in their jobs then those in the government & school systems etc jobs ought to be tested too.
“C’mon, metmom. No one has actually asked those questions.
They were all typed and you know it. /Mojave logic”
“...and Bingo was his name-o”
I agree! Some nurse aren’t able to deal with their jobs. Our nurse is not able to deal with the inhaler treatments for our daughter. It is against the school rules for Sassy to carry her inhaler. Since the school couldn’t treat her as she needed to be treated we got a doctor’s note, I copied it & sent it to the school. Sassy now carries her inhaler. My big problem with this nurse was the day Sassy was hit in the face with a hockey stick & I was not called. By chance I had to call the nurse & she told me Sassy was down there . I asked if she was getting inhaler treatment but she said no she fell into a wall & had a bloody lip. I got my child on the phone & she said I was hit by a hockey stick. I got the nurse on the phone & said I am picking her up. She told me I think not. Said it was no big deal. I am thinking she just got adult teeth & called my husband. He called the school & said her sister was coming to get her. I got a appt with her doctor & sent her sister to get her. Thankfully I wrote a note because Desiree’s name wasn’t on the list. She refused to let her take her until the note was shown. Sassy didn’t have loose teeth but her lips & inside of her mouth were cut up. I asked the nurse why she didn’t call me & she said some parents don’t want calls & this is minor. My husband called the nurse & straightened her out. When asked why she LIED about what happened to Sassy she had no answer... I called the BOE and told them I had a lawyer ready because I felt that my child was not getting proper care by this nurse. I’ve had it with the school & they know she is leaving. But if my child is injured again & I am not called I will have issues with that nurse & school.
My fundamental question here is what underlying view of the world, what principle, what overwhelming issue requires that, can only logically stand if we support strip searching young ladies on the grounds that we might find an illicit Advil? None of my cherished principles require it, and if I discovered one that did, I would abandon it forthwith, forswear it on the spot. My cherished principles require that this not go on in our country, in our society.
What public enterprise founders when we abandon the power of school officials to strip search girls?
I do not understand it. Clearly if you had any sense of public relations, you would have understood that you endanger anything you stand for by standing for this.
If you came to me and said the survival of the Republic stands on the power of school officials to strip search students, I would tell you that then you have already lost the Republic. Such a Republic is not one that we want to live in. Such a principle as the 4th ammendment is one we fight for, and its abandonment is not something we fight with. Not even to counter terrorism. Not even -- especially not, for this is what distinguishes us from the terrorists, and from Muslims who believe that a women are just property and have but a second place position in society with no rights and less freedom that stray dogs wandering the streets. Nothing could have done more to encourage our enemies and defeat out ability to counter terrorism that the spectacle of Abu Ghraib which was built on the same fundamental lack of decency and principle as was displayed in this school with this incident. Decent people don't treat people this way. Our friends, or our enemies.
Not only are you immoral, and dumb, you have destroyed whatever cause you stood for or stand for again. The next time you take a stand on an issue I will look at the issue and say, why would an enabler of child molesters take this position or support this cause. I will be agin' it on impulse, no rather through the repellent force of your argumentation here on this subject.
In brief, you are one sick puppy, no that insults puppies. You are one sick monster.
Now that's a "fact," Jack! ;^)
"Is that a fact?"
"Just the facts, Ma'am."
"The fact of the matter is..."
"We're on a fact finding mission here."
"Separating fact from fiction."
"Facts are stubborn things."
"But those are the simple facts of the case and I guess I ought to know."
I believe it refers to an old-time disruptor named Ash. Others would know better, but I think he kept popping up under different user names, and every time he was identified was known as an “ash alert”.
The left loves for local public schools to be administered by federal judges. It's the ACLU way.
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