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Scot calls for secession from U.K.
dailyprogress.com ^ | April 2, 2008 | Brian McNeill

Posted on 04/03/2008 2:05:21 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

The political leader of Scotland told a packed crowd at the University of Virginia on Tuesday that his nation deserves independence from Britain.

During his appearance in the Dome Room of the Rotunda, Alex Salmond, first minister of Scotland, praised Thomas Jefferson’s principles of self-governance and liberty, saying they underscore his argument that Scotland should secede and become its own country.

“Today, within the present constitutional arrangement, we do our utmost to improve the lives of the people of Scotland,” Salmond said. “And we know that, tomorrow, with full responsibility for our destiny, Scotland can become an even better nation. Our people more free, more prosperous and more secure. That is our vision. It’s not too different from the vision that Thomas Jefferson showed America in the Declaration of Independence.”

The British Embassy did not return a call Tuesday for comment. Many people in Britain oppose Scotland’s secession, including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, himself a Scot. According to the BBC, Brown has said that the United Kingdom would suffer economically and culturally without Scotland.

Salmond, who was elected last year, is the head of the Scottish National Party and is an advocate for a Scotland-wide referendum on independence in 2010. He visited UVa as part of a tour of the United States to promote the first Scotland Week, which started Sunday and highlights Scottish academic, business and cultural accomplishments.

Salmond’s visit marked the 10-year anniversary of the U.S. Senate’s passage of its Tartan Day Resolution that acknowledged that Scotland’s Declaration of Arbroath may have helped inspire the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Arbroath, sealed in 1320, stated that Scotland was independent from England and that Robert the Bruce was the true king of Scotland.

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To: Constitution Day; NYFriend
I'll see your Macallan and raise you a Lagavulin

Feh! A peaty swill, that, just like Laphroaig and the other Islays.

I'll take any Speyside any day (even the Cragganmore), particularly if we're talking those that flow from a sherry cask like The (yes, "THE"!) Macallan®, or perhaps Glendronach.

And you can find The Macallan in Costco, no less. For that reason alone, I am a Costco member for life . . . .

21 posted on 04/03/2008 7:25:51 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: driftless2
Aberdeen and Edinburgh looked pretty prosperous to me.

Unemployment blights Glasgow's children

"The situation has been blamed on the current benefits system that allows some 70,000 British households to receive more than £25,000 a year. About 20,000 of these are claiming more than £30,000 in benefits every year."

22 posted on 04/03/2008 7:26:58 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: driftless2
OK, it's touristy, and it's a little expensive, but in Edinburgh, there's a Scotch Whisky Heritage Museum, which I never walked through, but they have a restaurant that serves some really terrific Scottish food (OK, when I ordered the Haggis, it was a scoop of haggis, no outside, but they have a wide assortment of food, so it's a great place to try a few different things). There are also some places with a blue and white sign in the window that are “certified Scottish food” places.

Scottish beef is really excellent. You can also get cheep wool in places off of Princes Street.

23 posted on 04/03/2008 7:36:58 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: King of Florida

“Peaty swill”?!? Heresy!

We don’t have any Costcos on my side of NC, only Sam’s Club.
Not that that matters anyway, because the state of NC has a monopoly on all the liquor sales. Jerks!


24 posted on 04/03/2008 7:52:31 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: King of Florida

Peaty swill!? The smoky peat flavor is the best part!


25 posted on 04/03/2008 7:56:14 AM PDT by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: King of Florida
COSTCO TO CONSERVATIVES: GET LOST [FR]
26 posted on 04/03/2008 8:02:42 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: OeOeO

I have some good friends that are Scots and they all are excited about home rule and feel secession will happen eventually.

That said, they also feel that the society itself will have a hard time because it is much more socialist that Great Britain (yes, I know some will find that hard to believe).


27 posted on 04/03/2008 8:48:58 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: stainlessbanner
COSTCO TO CONSERVATIVES: GET LOST [FR]

I am willing to overlook donations to the Democratic Party in exchange for cheap single malt and 24-packs of Bounty paper towels. Even if I weren't, my only other local option is BJ's -- which is vastly more liberal/touchy-feely/Ben-and-Jerryish than Costco will ever be.

28 posted on 04/03/2008 10:36:12 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
FREE SCOTLAND!

England would benefit anyway, btw, as Scotland is the most socialist of any of the four nations that make up the UK.

29 posted on 04/03/2008 10:38:52 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Scotland has the same effect on the UK that Quebec has on Canada. Their mistrust of the conservatives of the other regions almost singlehandedly pulls the entire country hard to the left. Maybe dissolution would be best for all involved.


30 posted on 04/03/2008 10:52:08 AM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: King of Florida

I like the way you think, King.


31 posted on 04/03/2008 11:07:43 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So, do they become an independent member of the Commonwealth, like Canada, or restore the Stuart claimant? (I think that would be a member of the House of Wittelsbach, since the direct Stuart line died out in the early 1800s.)


32 posted on 04/03/2008 11:27:17 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

The Duke of Bavaria. He would be King Francis II of Scotland. (Yes, I looked it up. I am not a closet Jacobite.)


33 posted on 04/03/2008 12:00:09 PM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: NYFriend
"Edinburgh"

My only regret was that I didn't buy a Jimmy hat when I had the chance. When we went back to England I was unable to find one anywhere...not even in Great Yarmouth.

34 posted on 04/03/2008 5:13:07 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: OeOeO

Yes.

But most Scots, inc yours truly, believe a powerful Scotland within a powerful Britain (which we joined of our own accord and can secede if we wish) is best for Scotland.


35 posted on 04/04/2008 6:00:33 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: agere_contra

Even as a Conservative and Unionist, I roll my eyes at much of the ‘facts’ presented by those in England as ‘proof’ of Scotland’s ‘subsidy junkie’ existence...


36 posted on 04/04/2008 6:04:08 AM PDT by the scotsman
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