Posted on 04/03/2008 9:35:22 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Good going
Verbal has had the meaning “spoken” since the late 16th century and is thus synonymous with oral: He wrote a memorandum to confirm the verbal agreement. Slightly earlier, verbal had developed the meaning “expressed in words, whether spoken or written (as opposed to actions)”: Verbal support is no help without money and supplies. Although some say that the use of verbal to mean “spoken” produces ambiguity, it rarely does so. Verbal is used in this sense in all varieties of speech and writing and is fully standard. The context usually makes the meaning clear: No documents are necessary; a verbal agreement (or contract or order) will suffice. Oral can be used instead of verbal if the context demands: My lawyer insists on a written contract because oral agreements are too difficult to enforce.
He would have been dead meat if Jim had gotten his hands on him. ;-)
Legally, yes. Personally, not for me.
It is better to use 1 word when you could use 2.
In other words, lawyer speak.
Until then, my boss has contaced HR and will look at his resume/job application and see what exactly he put down in case he is milking the company or worse, the government. We don't think he is getting veteran benefits or committing fraud, but his constant BS is pissing off the REAL vets in our office. I would rather the liberal Arkansas Democrat Gazette have a headline that says, "Fake War Vet arrested/fired for claiming Navy Cross" much more than seeing "Local investment firm employs fake Navy Vet!"
When we receive the intel from the Navy Records Dept, and compare to any written info he has provided, we are going to call him on it, show him the "Stolen Valor" act, and reprimand him in writing. If he has received any monetary benefit through fraud, we will notify HR who told us they will contact authorities.
Best case scenario: He really did fly fighter jets at age 16-17 and we owe him our thanks and praise (and a case of beer). Worse case scenario, we have a fraud that needs to be prosecuted.
I am hoping for the mddle ground: that, hopefully, the scorn (if we can prove his BS and confront him with it) will cause him to retire to his underground bunker, where, GET THIS, he claims to own one (1) of every pre-64 Winchester ever made!
WHERE, OH WHERE, do we get such "men"?
BTW....if someone did own one (1) of every pre-64 Winchester ever made, his underground, custom bunker he, of course, built himself, would be approximately 6,000 square feet....double the size of his home!
Well, we know that is BS because there are several, single run models that are accounted for. Also, there are many pre-64 models where he could sell just one and never have to work again.
He also said that he has a crate of M1 Garand Winchesters NIB, in the gov't grease, sequential serial numbers starting with 100000-100008. LOL riiigghht!
I took my Winchester M2 .30 cal. carbine (M1 overstamp) in and showed him that it was one of the first 100 made off the line and overstamped: His reaction, "His was number 25 off the factory". LOL!
I personally know a guy who enlisted at 15 in WWII.
He was a waist gunner on a B-17.
I’ve known him since the late 1970’s, so no question about validity.
sounds like it may be more than someone bs’ing, he may have a mental disorder..
Does he own a mansion an have a yacht and wear plaid hunting wabbits too ?
Get this loser...
Jacklyn H. Lewis
Although only 14 years of age, muscular build, five feet, eight inches high, weighing 180 pounds,[1] he enlisted in the Marine Corps Reserve without his mother's consent[1] on 6 August 1942. He gave his age as 17, and went to Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, South Carolina, for recruit training.
During his rifle training Pvt Lucas qualified as a sharpshooter. He was next assigned to the Marine Barracks and Naval Air Station Jacksonville, Florida. In June 1943, he was transferred to the 21st Replacement Battalion at New River, North Carolina, and one month later he went to the 25th Replacement Battalion, where he successfully completed schooling which qualified him as a heavy machine gun crewman. He left the continental United States on 4 November 1943, and the following month he joined the 6th Base Depot of the V Amphibious Corps at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. He was advanced to private first class on 29 January 1944. With statements to his buddies that he was going to join a combat organization, PFC Lucas walked out of camp on 10 January 1945, wearing a khaki uniform and carrying his dungarees and field shoes in a roll under his arm. He was declared absent without leave (AWOL) when he failed to return that night and a month later, when there was still no sign of him, he was declared a "deserter", and a reward offered for his apprehension. He was also reduced to the rank of private at that time. He stowed away on board USS Deuel which was transporting units of the 5th Marine Division into combat. He surrendered to the senior troop officer present on 8 February 1945 dressed in neat, clean dungarees. He was allowed to remain, and shortly after he was transferred to Headquarters Company, 5th Marine Division. He reached his 17th birthday while at sea, six days before the heroic actions at Iwo Jima, for which he was awarded the Medal of Honor. On the day following the landing at Iwo Jima, he was creeping through a twisting ravine with three other men of his rifle team when the Japanese opened a hand grenade attack on them. The men jumped into two shallow foxholes. Lucas pushed a thrown hand grenade into the volcanic ash and covered with helmet,and along with his body. He was left for dead by his companions, although he was miraculously still alive. Severely wounded in the right arm and wrist, right leg and thigh, and chest, Pvt Lucas had undoubtedly saved his companions from serious injury and possible death. He was evacuated to the hospital ship Samaritan, and then treated at various field hospitals prior to his arrival in San Francisco, California on 28 March 1945. He eventually underwent 21 surgeries. To this day, there are still about 200 pieces of metal, some the size of 22 caliber bullets, still left in Lucas — which set off airport medal detectors.[2] The mark of desertion was removed from his record in August of that year while he was a patient at the U.S. Naval Hospital at Charleston, South Carolina. He was discharged from the Marine Corps Reserve because of disability resulting from his wounds on 18 September 1945, following his reappointment to the rank of Private First Class.
However, he was not flying jets. FWIW most planes that flew on the real bridges in Korea were P-51's.
My dad has two of them in a WWII scrap book my mom put together. The first one is from when he fibbed about his age and joined the Army Air Force, they figured it a few weeks later and the CO arranged for an honorable discharge.
The 2nd one was from his service in the Navy a couple of years later.
By the Korean War though, there were so many qualified pilots from the previous war available, that it seems VERY unlikely that they would take a 13-14 year old (after getting a college degree) into service, train him on the most modern technology to date (F-80/F-86,etc) and release him into front line combat in June 1951- July 1953 at age 15-18. Hell, this guy was barely a legal adult when the Korean War ended....must have been a HELLUVA fighter pilot.
To calm anyone's fears though, we are working the system, have requested his publicly available records, and will see how it goes in a few weeks.
Until then, we have to put up with more "I was a war hero" BS. If I had him flying cover for me when I was in Iraq, the war would have been over already!
I need to find out at what date the jets started bombing bridges, research training squadrons, etc. At that time in the new "AIR FORCE", fighter pilots were the best of the best, mostly WW2 Vets, and probably had to have a hell of a pre-requisite list to be able to transition from props to jets.
Is his last name Clinton?
Did he every say if he was on a carrier?
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