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ATF Agents Burst Into Wrong House (again...)
NBC6 ^ | 04-10-08 | staff

Posted on 04/10/2008 8:06:37 AM PDT by woollyone

MIAMI -- Officers from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives barged into a South Florida home Wednesday only to discover they had the wrong address.

The ATF agents were supposed to conduct a raid at a home in the 2600 block of Northwest 49th Terrace in northwest Miami-Dade County, but they were off by one block. They entered a house on Northwest 49th Street instead.

A mother and her 2-year-old boy were among the innocent people inside the home when the agents came in


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; beserkcop; bootthebatfe; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; leo; noknock; police; policestate; swat
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Why do we need a law enforcement agency for three LEGAL commodities?

To make sure the government gets its cut of the action, of course.

They're nothing but glorified bagmen.

81 posted on 04/10/2008 9:33:25 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: DuncanWaring

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur? What if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”

Thanks for the reminder of why we fight, FRiend!


82 posted on 04/10/2008 9:37:08 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: woollyone
One would think with all the high-tech equipment available today that they could use some of it to verify an address before they went on a mission! Talk about sloppy police work.
83 posted on 04/10/2008 9:37:31 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: woollyone

Did they at least shoot a dog? If they didn’t then it was a total waste of time and taxpayers’ money.


84 posted on 04/10/2008 9:38:34 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: DuncanWaring

Thank you.
I couldn’t find the cite.

I remembered part of the quote/passage and, at the time I read them, I was stunned and gratified that somebody had both the experience and ability to put that into words.


85 posted on 04/10/2008 9:39:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: ontap

ATF ain’t law enforcement. That agency has long been a dumping ground and a tool of jackbooted thuggery.


86 posted on 04/10/2008 9:40:26 AM PDT by karnage
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To: M1D

What you said.


87 posted on 04/10/2008 9:41:56 AM PDT by karnage
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To: beltfed308

“Wrong address” is usually safer and easier.Perhaps they have a set number of raids they have to do and select addresses based on perceived difficulty of attack.Through the 80s and into the 90s addresses to raid with SWAT were selected in part based on desirability or value of the property to be confiscated.


88 posted on 04/10/2008 9:42:04 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: ModelBreaker

You avoid this by disbanding ATF ASAP.


89 posted on 04/10/2008 9:42:49 AM PDT by karnage
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To: DBrow

Yep. Be his spotter for the next scot-free murder.


90 posted on 04/10/2008 9:43:22 AM PDT by karnage
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To: oldfart
Posse Comitatus went bye-bye last year when Bush signed a budget bill with a “small” rider that repealed it.

Bull.

91 posted on 04/10/2008 9:44:21 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (I wrote the original “That’s The Ticket” Skit for SNL.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

ATF almost got abolished in the ‘90’s - that’s what Waco was all about. And after that fiasco, instead of the agency being shut down, it was strengthened.

Typical gubmint outcome.


92 posted on 04/10/2008 9:45:23 AM PDT by karnage
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To: ModelBreaker
"It's hard to stay alive and not be uber-cautious because the country is full of psychopaths with RPG's"

Not even a smattering of liberal, gun-hating, fear-mongering, over-the-top hyperbole in that one, eh...?

</SARCASM>

93 posted on 04/10/2008 9:48:45 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine; ModelBreaker
You show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says that federal police forces are authorized?

Show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says that the Federal government has any authority to regulate substances people consume.

94 posted on 04/10/2008 10:04:34 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: eyeamok
curious?? Cant she file a criminal complaint for Breaking and Entering,Assault with a Deadly Weapon, Using a Firearm during the commission of a crime, and so on.... thats exactly what would happen if you or I did this. Considering their Warrant had a different AQddress on it , she would be =on the right side of the law. Every one of these Jack Booted thugs should rot in Jail for a long time, and of course in General Population.

That's an interesting concept. Sovereign immunity would probably save their bacon but if the abuse was blatant enough - and we might have that here - you might get a few sphincters to clench if you could find a prosecutor who'd actually prosecute it.

I wonder, can a citizen bring charges directly to the grand jury?

95 posted on 04/10/2008 10:10:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Farmer Dean

We were better served when reporters gave us the news.


96 posted on 04/10/2008 10:11:52 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: woollyone
"~snip~ "...When the agents realized their mistake, one of them said, "Ma'am, you were in the wrong place." ~snip~"

Her response should have been, "No, you ignorant testosterone monkey, you are in the wrong place!!"

97 posted on 04/10/2008 10:14:45 AM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: DuncanWaring
From Wikipedia:

Recent congressionally passed law, now repealed, may have explicitly given this authority to the President. HR5122 also known as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act was signed by the president on Oct 17, 2006 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Section 1076 Text of Hr5122 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". Removing the legalese from the text, and combining multiple sentences, it provides that: The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. The actual text is on page 322-323 of the legislation. As of 2008, these changes were repealed, changing the text of the law back to the original 1807 wording.

98 posted on 04/10/2008 10:14:50 AM PDT by jonascord (Hurray! for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears the Single Star!)
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To: woollyone

Given Miami’s street naming system, the folks at NW 49th Ave and NW 49th Court are saying “there but for the grace of God ...” the folks at NW 49th Terrace are saying “thank you, Jesus” as they head for Georgia.


99 posted on 04/10/2008 10:19:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: DuncanWaring
Show me anywhere in the Constitution where it says that the Federal government has any authority to regulate substances people consume.

Depends on whether it travels interstate. If its pot grown, sold, and that makes people stupid entirely in, say, CA, then I agree with you. California should be able to legalize whatever hell it chooses in that case. They have already chosen so many different versions of Hell there, that one more wouldn't make much of a difference.

100 posted on 04/10/2008 10:24:45 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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