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To: Mrs. Don-o
Who is "the Lord" in this picture? What is He? How big is He? Where is He?

Mary was with child (Matthew 1:18, KJV)--not potential child, not fetus. You're right in pointing out that size, location, and the like don't define personhood, but the Roe-Doe gang has a penchant for moving the goalposts on the issue--provided they address it at all.

Are you familiar with the pro-abortion rights arguments from theism/the Bible? Your series of questions really serve as a fairly good challenge to those who would refer to themselves both as Christians and pro-choice.

By any chance, have you read Francis Beckwith's "Politically Correct Death?" It's an older one--1992, I believe--but is as relevant today as it was then.
31 posted on 04/14/2008 6:45:07 PM PDT by Das Outsider ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Das Outsider
The main pro-abortion argument I've heard from self-described Christians is that abortion comes under the category of our "stewardship" or ownership of the rest of Creation.

One pro-abort Presbyterian minister read me that great pro-life Psalm 139, which speaks of the unborn child being the work of the Lord's hands as He "knits the child together" in his mother's womb, and had the nerve to go on from there to argue that abortion is OK!

Why? Because Psalm 8:6 says " You made him [man] ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet." He took this to mean that God has put all of His creatures "under our feet" to use as we think best, including our children before birth.

I explained to him the basic Biblical distinction between humans and the rest of Creation (of human beings, only, was it said that we are created "in the image and likeness of God," and thus we have a dignity which is above that of a "thing") but he was closed to this distinction. Turns out he was an actual board member of the local Planned Parenthood.

I was appalled.

35 posted on 04/15/2008 6:47:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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