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Ron Paul Hits the Third Rail of Politics
BC Magazine ^ | April 15, 2008 | Dave Nalle

Posted on 04/18/2008 4:27:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: randomhero97
Not at all, that's why I am not satisfied following someone who has zero history of accomplishing improvements in the Conservative cause other than attempt to hold back incremental-ism. As Phill Gramm said, he (Paul) couldn't even get bills out of committee because they are so poorly worded and lack any detail as to how to implement.

No, to change the direction, the very first thing we need to do is stop looking for government answers. Imagine what Reagan would say with all these 'Conservatives' looking for someone to say I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

21 posted on 04/18/2008 5:22:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Well said, I totally agree. I am a supporter and fan of Ron Paul’s positions and ideas but I will say he doesn’t lay out a plan very well on how to implement them effectively.


22 posted on 04/18/2008 5:30:57 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul was never a serious threat to the party and hasn’t even been an asterisk for months now. How many celebratory post-mortems will you folks have?

Why waste energy on this when you can work for your candidate McCain? If he wins, you will get what it appears you all want: a defense hawk who will work with Kennedy to further undermine thousands of miles of border and a defender of the Constitution who will work with Fiengold to further restrict the first amendment.

Not that I’m bitter or anything.


23 posted on 04/18/2008 5:32:36 PM PDT by a_different_conservative
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To: randomhero97
I think the fundamental issue with him I have is that he stands (claims to) for Conservative ideas, not ideals. He isn't starting a revolution of ideals, but of a mismash of ideas, all are creating followers of government solutions. The fundamental ideal of Conservatism is the power of the individual to achieve his full potential in spite of the system. Paul is always preaching about all the problems that are holding you back because of the system and preaching system solutions. This isn't Conservative ideals, this is another person saying offering government solutions.
24 posted on 04/18/2008 5:35:39 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

But...he had his picture taken with Reagan once! That PROVES he’s the only true constitutionalist!


25 posted on 04/18/2008 5:38:43 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
Sure does.

26 posted on 04/18/2008 5:40:36 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ron Paul and Howard Dean? Separated at birth. All you have to do is look at the eyes.....
27 posted on 04/18/2008 5:40:38 PM PDT by alarm rider ("Difficile est saturam non scibere" -- it's difficult not to write satire.)
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To: KDD

Exactly. This guy’s as left as you get. Just because he doesn’t like Paul doesn’t make him a conservative. He’s got every leftist platitude in the book written into this thing.


28 posted on 04/18/2008 5:42:35 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul is still a viable candidate for the GOP. He won all of the online polls!

/s


29 posted on 04/18/2008 5:45:38 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: mnehrling
The fundamental ideal of Conservatism is the power of the individual to achieve his full potential in spite of the system.

Insert laugh-track here.

Cue to scene of of Republicans voting in favor of Bush's prescription drugs boondogle and record deficits, Cue to a scene of McCain's proposing government-backed. Cue to scene of McCain's speech blaming "greed" as a cause of the mortgage crisis. Cue to McCain's support of bailouts via Fed inflation. Now, cue to Paul's consistent votes and speeches denouncing all of the above and his call for individual responsiblity.

30 posted on 04/18/2008 5:53:58 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: mnehrling

That’s McCain’s call for “government backed mortgages.”


31 posted on 04/18/2008 6:05:54 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Drango
Yeah 9/11 truther attracts a lot of wackjob followers along with the white supremacy crowd. What an ugly combination.

It is interesting how the so-called far left and the so-called far right have much in common. One group might me more interested in class warfare and the other group might want racial warfare, but both groups share many of the same hatreds. They hate America because America is tolerant. They tend to hate Jews in general and Israel in particular, while they are sympathetic to the Jihadists. They hate people who are successful. They believe there is a conspiracy behind everything.

32 posted on 04/18/2008 6:41:20 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am not a Ron Paul supporter; however, this article falsely claims the JBS is both a racist and fascist organization. This is definitely not true.

When I was a member 40+ years ago, there not only was no racism but one of our small group was black.

Like many political organizations, the JBS failed to adjust to the end of the Soviet Union.

Once there was not a Soviet threat, all the penetration of our government by communist sympathizers became moot.

I personally salute the JBS for a job well done. They need not apologize to anyone for their efforts—least of all the false accusations of being racist, fascist or mentally disordered.

33 posted on 04/18/2008 7:14:21 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For those not already familiar with the John Birch Society, it is a secretive and rather paranoid extreme-right organization which was originally founded in the era of Joe McCarthy's witch hunts to help root out the communist infiltrators who infested American society

Generally, the term "witch hunt" has been reserved for cases where the targets of the movement either didn't exist or did nothing wrong. If there were "communist infiltrators who infested American society" (as all the evidence overwhelmingly indicates and the article itself apparently concedes) then it wasn't a "witch hunt."

The journalistic equivalent of the kid who grunts at you when you thank him for your cheeseburger at McDonalds.

34 posted on 04/18/2008 8:49:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (to love New York is to love humanity.)
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To: shrinkermd
Once there was not a Soviet threat, all the penetration of our government by communist sympathizers became moot.

And yet, one could argue that the corrosive fruit of their mission is tearing our society apart to this very day.

Also, the Soviet threat was reorganized, not removed.

35 posted on 04/18/2008 8:52:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (to love New York is to love humanity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...extreme-right organization which was originally founded in the era of Joe McCarthy's witch hunts to help root out the communist infiltrators who infested American society.

McCarthy was right.

36 posted on 04/18/2008 9:29:01 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I second that! Perhaps McCarthy’s tactics were wrong, but he did uncover a lot of communists. Especially, in Hollywood.

As a Jew and a Bircher and a Ron Paul Republican, I can attest that that article was complete nonsense!


37 posted on 04/19/2008 8:02:52 AM PDT by AnotherRonPaulFan
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To: AnotherRonPaulFan

Sign-up date: April 18, 2008


38 posted on 04/19/2008 3:47:20 PM PDT by Antonio C (God bless John McCain, George W. Bush, and our troops)
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To: mnehrling

“other than attempt to hold back incremental-ism”

...mainly because the incrementalism was in the direction of increasing the size & scope of the federal government.

Name one major domestic program that has been reduced in size or dismantled since we had control of the executive and Congress.

“we need to do is stop looking for government answers”

That’s just a bizarre comment, considering that real conservatives, constitutionalists and libertarians want the government to stop “providing answers” (ie. unconstitutional spending). Regardless, I can’t ignore a government whose spending and monetary policies are making it almost impossible to save or help create a future for myself, my wife or my children.


39 posted on 04/20/2008 9:49:44 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: mnehrling

“The fundamental ideal of Conservatism is the power of the individual to achieve his full potential in spite of the system”

By “system”, conservatives mean “free market”.

By your definition of conservatism, Jews in Nazi Germany were at fault for not finding innovative workarounds to the gas chambers.


40 posted on 04/20/2008 10:19:03 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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