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"Should the Unborn be Considered Human?" A College Student's Final Project
UAB ^ | 04/23/2008 | Ultra Sonic 007

Posted on 04/23/2008 4:00:51 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Greetings.

To those of you who know me, you'll know I've written extensively on the subject of abortion.

Should the Unborn be Considered Human? and Abortion Proposal: A Need for Education were my final papers for English 101 and English 102. They both served as the base for my final project in Computer Science 101, where the final grade depended heavily on one's ability to design a website.

The instructors said to base your website's final project on a term paper, or any subject of term paper length. My previous two papers on abortion immediately leapt to mind.

However, my final project ended up going far beyond my two papers. It became enormous. As such, it is, thus far, my ultimate work with regards to my Pro-Life views. Within this work are five arguments, based on biology, philosophy, morality, legality, and reality. Points and counterpoints are offered (many coming from Pro-Choice activist T.F. Barans, who is a REAL piece of work).

You can click on the link above to go straight to the project index page, or you can go straight to my final project here. Or for the more light-hearted among you, you can begin from my website index and goof around first before moving on. I really do suggest viewing the webpage; I could post all the material here, but then a lot of the functionality would be lost.

I hope you all approve of the final project. I spent a lot of work on it. Spread it to other Pro-Lifers for use if you want to.

Enjoy.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; righttolife; roe
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To: ZinGirl

My pleasure!


61 posted on 04/24/2008 5:19:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
but I could make a lot stronger case for their position than the pro-life one, since birds and mammals clearly ARE sentient, conscious and autonomous - not requiring that you use your body to keep them alive.

Well then, lambs must be fine and dandy to place upon our plates then b/c they are NOT autonomous. Actually that is true for any baby mammal...infants still require breast-milk from Mama (and baby birds require chewed up worms) and therefore requiring that you use your body to keep them alive

Start crushing bird eggs or aborting the "fetal tissue" of dogs and this nut will freak. Hypocrite in the name of her agenda.
62 posted on 04/24/2008 6:05:46 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Are the unborn human? That requires two elements:

1. They are alive.
2. They have human DNA.

1. Is not disputed even by abortionists. Indeed, one of Obama’s laws in IL is that hospitals can kill babies if the the abortion didn't take.

2. Is not disputed by any scientist. Each baby has unique and complete DNA signature (with the exception of identical twins). Human DNA is admissible evidence is court.

Therefore, the unborn are human.

What else is needed for the paper?

Click on my home page for my college paper on abortion.

63 posted on 04/24/2008 6:45:29 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
I don't think there's any dispute about their being human, the debate is over whether or not they are persons. We deny full "personhood" to all sorts of categories of humans; children cannot vote, felons are often deprived of liberty, etc. In the past, our society has denied full personhood on the basis of race and gender, and we've evolved towards a greater understanding ot the personhood of the affected humans.

The argument I often make is: When the rulers of a society, (be they kings, dictators, a legislature or even an electorate) have sought to narrow the definition of personhood, they've been wrong much more often than they've been right; when they expand the definition of personhood for human beings, they've been right much more than they've been wrong.

Liberals really have to scratch their heads on that one.

64 posted on 04/24/2008 6:53:11 AM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner; hunter112

Forgiven_Sinner: Well, I’ve generally noticed Pro-Lifers tend to use the term ‘human’ in the context of personhood; as in one’s inherent humanity, hence they are ‘human’ in nature, beyond their mere physical DNA. That Ms. Barans lady disputed that the unborn should be considered persons - i,e. should be considered ‘human’ - simply because they are alive and have human DNA. I offered counterpoints against that line of thought.

hunter112: I went over that in Argument 2: Philosophy. It is EXACTLY why the definition of one’s own inherent humanity, of one’s own personhood, should be set in stone and not be defined by an entity such as the State.


65 posted on 04/24/2008 7:10:11 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Heh, yeah. I actually made that point in my very first paper on abortion for English 101; one of my references was a cartoon that showcased two scientists talking about abortion. Paraphrased, it went like this:

Mr. Scientist: Well, they’re talking about abortion again.

Mrs. Scientist: We’ll never know when human life begins. They should just stop and let things be.

Mr. Scientist: Who knows. (grabs an egg to make an omelette)

Mrs. Scientist: (swipes the giant egg) That’s the egg of the California Condor! You’ll kill it!

Mr. Scientist: (huffily walks away) Well, I suppose YOU know when life begins for that then!

Same principle, really. The points offered by “The Angry Vegan” were fun to dissect. :D


66 posted on 04/24/2008 7:19:15 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Excellent project! I’ve bookmarked it. Thanks for all your hard work.


67 posted on 04/24/2008 7:37:11 AM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. Þ)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; hunter112
“Forgiven_Sinner: Well, I’ve generally noticed Pro-Lifers tend to use the term ‘human’ in the context of personhood; as in one’s inherent humanity, hence they are ‘human’ in nature, beyond their mere physical DNA. That Ms. Barans lady disputed that the unborn should be considered persons - i,e. should be considered ‘human’ - simply because they are alive and have human DNA. I offered counterpoints against that line of thought.”

“hunter112: I went over that in Argument 2: Philosophy. It is EXACTLY why the definition of one’s own inherent humanity, of one’s own personhood, should be set in stone and not be defined by an entity such as the State.”

Thank you for your comments. The artificial splitting of “person” from “human” is a device to discriminate against certain classes of people.

From our Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, “

We see our right to life comes are creation and it comes from God. Therefore, person-hood from conception is established in the foundational document of our country.

From the Bible, we find this passage in Luke 1:

Mary Visits Elizabeth
39At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, 40where she entered Zechariah's home and greeted Elizabeth. 41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!”

Not only is John the Baptist called a “child” in utero, at six months gestation, but also Jesus, who was just conceived after the appearance of the angel.

So, any Christian who upholds the authority of the Bible must be against abortion.

I'm sorry I haven't read your paper yet, but I'm home sick and operating only at 50% efficiency.

F.S.

68 posted on 04/24/2008 7:46:00 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: FaithfulCatholic

See the post I’m replying to for the pro-life ping list.


69 posted on 04/24/2008 11:29:41 AM PDT by redtetrahedron ("Before I formed thee in the bowels of thy mother, I knew thee" - Jer 1:5 | RIP Fred'08)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The site is great work. Hope you both get an "A", and change some minds. I'd bargain your grade down to a "C" to change a million minds, I'm guessing you wouldn't mind...
70 posted on 04/24/2008 4:33:56 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I hope this post does not come across as mean, although it has the potential to.

I also am somewhat learned in the ways of HTML/CSS and the web. When I was teaching myself in, like 2001 or so, when I was 11, I learned that a coder who uses frames commits web browser genocide. They are generally not pretty. Easy to use, but ugly. I’d recommend that to make that site look better you use tables or CSS to keep your left bar on the left and your content on the right.

One thing is certain though: Ditch the frames. There’s a time and a place for them, but not here.

I recommend CSS tables. Kinda confusing, what with all the browser issues, but the results can be sweet.

However, the information contained in your website is nice. Bookmarked for now.


71 posted on 04/24/2008 6:49:54 PM PDT by ZachS
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To: ZachS

Can’t change it now though. What’s there is the final version.


72 posted on 04/24/2008 7:21:11 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: darkangel82

right now my left hand is paralyzed, pecking with my right.
i like all caps,AND WILL CONTINUE AS I PLEASE


73 posted on 04/30/2008 7:04:08 PM PDT by SO RIGHT (I LIKE McCAIN & THOMAS SOWELL & ANN COULTER & dislike harry reid)
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