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U.S. is a suicidal superpower
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Posted on 04/28/2008 8:42:19 AM PDT by tatsinfla

If you're a poor sap who needs to eat or drive in the near future, then you might want to consider taking out a second mortgage (assuming you could even get one) pretty soon. Glenn Beck asks what country that cares about its future would do what the U.S. has to its food and fuel supply. Food and gas prices have been all over the news lately, and even a big dumb rodeo clown like me can see that it's all connected. Our policies, which try to cater to everyone from oil company executives to environmentalists, end up benefiting no one -- and now we're all paying the price. I know that real economists probably will say that the causes of these skyrocketing prices are extremely complicated to understand, but the truth is that it's actually pretty simple: We've done this to ourselves.

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1 posted on 04/28/2008 8:42:19 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: tatsinfla
The truth is pretty simple: We've done this to ourselves.

If any other country had imposed our laws, our education system, or our tax system on us we would have regarded it as an act of war.

2 posted on 04/28/2008 8:45:19 AM PDT by null and void (Tagline? What tagline? I don't see no tagline...)
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To: tatsinfla
You mean someone else noticed?


This trickle could turn in to a torrent.


(Have lots of strong rope ... can tie knots ... will travel.)


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

3 posted on 04/28/2008 8:46:46 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: null and void

Fifth column socialists want to tear down this nation. The policies of liberalism are not healthy for America’s survival. This is no accident.


4 posted on 04/28/2008 8:48:10 AM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: G.Mason
Hang'um high!.....& often.

Off w/the gloves, I say.

It's kick-ass party time!

5 posted on 04/28/2008 8:51:00 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: tatsinfla
Our policies, which try to cater to every one from oil company executives to wack job environmentalist's pet dogma.

There fixed it. If we were catering to Oil execs you would have a few thousand more oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska then we have now

6 posted on 04/28/2008 8:51:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: null and void

Huge impact of the Global Warming Hoax. More to come. One I just became aware of is —new 2008 commercial big rig diesel trucks won’t run very long before constant break downs start. New emission controls to meet the 2008 standards cause the break downs. Worse new standards are on the way for 2010. There are billions and billions of $$$ in needless costs upon the entire economy because of this made up BS. Most of those costs are never known about by the public at large.


7 posted on 04/28/2008 8:52:46 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: weegee

i agree with you, they have been attacking us from the inside and using our own laws and policys against us to bring us to our knees...if we do not start electing leaders that see and understand this then the country we all knew and loved will be gone before our eyes.....


8 posted on 04/28/2008 8:53:18 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: tatsinfla

No kidding, we did this to ourselves. Well, I’ll be. I thought something else had done this to us.

The things you learn.


9 posted on 04/28/2008 8:53:58 AM PDT by RexBeach
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10 posted on 04/28/2008 8:59:12 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: null and void

True, this reminds me of China’s One Child Policy. Back in the 1950’s one of the party members went through the data and found out if the Chinese kept reproducing at that rate, there wouldn’t be enough food in 30 years. He wanted the Chinese to limit their families to 4-5 kids. Mao of course went the other way and declared let a “million flowers bloom.” Which then resulted in the much harsher one-child policy.

The drive in fuel prices is a demand driven spike (the weak dollar has something to do with it as well, but that’s another thread). We’ve built our homes out in the middle of nowhere without sidewalks, we have to drive to get anywhere, outside of NYC public transportation sucks, and of course we have the biggest least efficient cars on the planet.

The only way for fuel prices to fall is to stop using so much of it. Normal, traditional capitalism - the solution to high prices is high prices.

OPEC reduced the price of gas because we started to use less of it in the early 1980s.


11 posted on 04/28/2008 9:03:06 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: All; WFTR
Short term solutions:

1. Repeal all ot most of the Federal and State gas taxes on fuel.
2. No designer fuels, screw the EPA, only one type of fuel although the oil companies can still use additives like detergents and so on if they wish.
3. End ethanol subsidies the way it is now. Ethanol "eats" into our food supply. Corn is for eating. I know there is ways to get it from waste products, that will continue.
4. Biodiesel, good idea but let private people and industry work on it.

Long term:

1. Flat tax on all oil (really all corporations) of 10% of income.
2. Drill ANWAR, offshore, through the head of a Carabou, wherever.
2a. Stop those dang Cubans and Red Chinese from slant drilling off of Florida, they are stealing our oil. Use military force if necessary.
3. Build more clean coal and atomic power plants. Solar and wind power are OK if you want to live off the grid but for large applications they fall short.
4. Build more refineries.
5. Develop oil shale and sands.
6. Charge Mexico 2 barrels of oil per illegal here per day
7. Charge Iraq for saving them, maybe 10% of their output, don't want to be too punative yet we should get something.
8. Use coal to make fuels, if the Weimar Republic and the Nazis could do it, why can't we?

Longer term borderline Star Trek solutions:

1. Let car companies make fuel celled vehicles thaty use current fuels more efficently, hybrids, and so on, let the free market decide.
1a. The hydrogen economy is more of a bust and uses more energy than it saves, it will not work.
2. Work on atomic fusion, although it has "always been 30 years away."
12 posted on 04/28/2008 9:09:44 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: tatsinfla
:::rolls eyes:::

Yeah, times are a little tighter than they were. We need to work on that. But good grief, we still have a strong economy. Our poor people live better than most of the rest of the world.

Good grief, I hate whiners.

13 posted on 04/28/2008 9:10:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Philly Nomad

The only way for fuel prices to fall is to stop using so much of it. Normal, traditional capitalism - the solution to high prices is high prices.


Not quite correct. You are describing 1/2 of what is a free market - not capitalism.

The other side of the solution to higher prices is to produce more supply. There are PLENTY of potential domestic hydrocarbon energy reserves, but so far the enviro-weenies have been allowed to lock it away from development.


14 posted on 04/28/2008 9:13:42 AM PDT by dadgum (Growing weary.)
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To: Philly Nomad

>>>>>The only way for fuel prices to fall is to stop using so much of it.

That would be possible if not for the several hundred Million new drivers and autos being introduced by the Chinese and Indian economies.

The only way out for this is to build at least 50 new nuclear power plants poste haste.


15 posted on 04/28/2008 9:21:32 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Nowhere Man

None of your solutions are possible until the Communists (such as many politicians) and their fellow-travelers (such as environmentalists) inside our country are dealt with. We are politically handcuffed by those traitors. Unless there is a major housecleaning, this country is already doomed.


16 posted on 04/28/2008 9:27:19 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: dadgum
A dollar for dollar tax credit for exploration, drilling, productions, transport and refining infrastructure would solve the oil price problem in 2-3 years. If you gave the oil companies the choice between giving the government their usual 25% tribute or increasing their spending on oil production 500% at no net cost to them we would be swimming in cheap oil and gas. Unfortunately the liberals have so demonized Big oil that the only workable solution is politically imspossible.
17 posted on 04/28/2008 9:28:05 AM PDT by azcap
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To: tatsinfla

I’m just amazed that this came from CNN but for one thing, and one thing only - this bashes the US. Deservedly, in this case, but still.


18 posted on 04/28/2008 9:37:55 AM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: tatsinfla

“Glenn Beck asks what country that cares about its future would do what the U.S. has to its food and fuel supply.”

Who says the US cares for its future? Look at its immigration policy and you’ll find the answer staring in your face. It seems that we only import third world nationals.


19 posted on 04/28/2008 9:44:32 AM PDT by 353FMG (Don't make the mistake to think that Government is a Friend of the People)
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To: tatsinfla

know that real economists probably will say that the causes of these skyrocketing prices are extremely complicated to understand, but the truth is that it’s actually pretty simple: We’ve done this to ourselves.


No, it really is complicated. The reason we try to understand a problem is to try and solve it, not to assign blame.


20 posted on 04/28/2008 9:47:45 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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