[xzins]

Hillary DID go to those states. Those people DID vote, and those votes DID go to Hillary.

They are hers.

[Jay Howard Smith]

Hillary DID go to those states. Those people DID vote, and those votes DID go to Hillary.

They are hers.

Neither candidate campaigned in either state. Obama just didnt bother to have his name on the ballot in Michigan while being in compliance with the DNC. Blame must be placed on the State Dem Parties for moving their primary up from its original date so they could be more visible in the early rounds. It didn't work......and.....It will NOT work....She will get neither ... !

She will lose the nomination ... !

[ClearCase_guy]

I've made that point many times. I think the DNC disenfranchised many people and it feels very wrong to me. And highly ironic after Al Gore's little problem in Florida in 2000. But I have two things to say:

1) The DNC sets the rules for primaries and pretty much by definition, the DNC "can't be wrong". They are the rule makers and what they say goes. FL and MI agreed to the rules, then changed their minds. Failing to seat the delegates is a fairly predictable response but the 2 states walked right into that.

2) I think Obama is incredibly damaged. He's totally unelectable, IMO. And not because the mean, racist Republicans beat him up. Nope. Our hands are clean. And based on that I think it is paramount that Hillary be denied. No MI, no FL. Pay attention to the delegate math and realize that she has no hope. I admit that she's a fighter and -- truly -- anything can happen. But I'd like to see tens of millions of Americans just fold their arms and say "Walk away Hillary. You have no chance. It's over."

If Obama is the nominee, it will be 1972 all over again and McCain will have coattails -- something I never would have expected.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

So Clinton cheated, and now she gets rewarded?