Posted on 05/05/2008 3:59:52 PM PDT by Mount Athos
When Ms. Murguia of the National Council of "The Race" announces that "when free speech transforms into hate speech, we've got to draw that line " we don't know whether to laugh or cry, since her own organization's very nomenclature "The National Council of La Raza" is hate speech to the core.
No other ethnic organization these days would dare to refer to themselves as "The Race." Despite all the contortions of the group, Raza (as its Latin cognate suggests), reflects the meaning of "race" in Spanish, not "the people" and that's precisely why we don't hear of something like "The National Council of the People" which would not confer the buzz notion of ethnic, racial, and tribal chauvinism.
What we are seeing is that a moderate corrective back to sanity on illegal immigration threatens these extremists and racialist groups to the point of causing hysteria. Apparently, they assumed that no one was ever going to question their racist language deeply embedded in 1960s 'resistance' culture.
In this regard, Ms. Murguia could do her part in curbing hate speech by starting with the many campus MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan).affiliates, who have never repudiated all the nonsense of the "liberation of Aztlan," and on whose websites one can still find the old racist hatred: "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada," and new ones like "Anchor babies are destined to transform America although during the California recall election and the implosion of the Cruz Bustamante candidacy, there was the welcome development of seeing that the old motto "A bronze state for a bronze people" suddenly began disappearing off MEChA university websites, no doubt due to the civil-rights humanitarianism of La Raza.
By November I don't know why either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama should not have been asked to repudiate the support of an organization self-described as "The National Council of The Race," or why public funds on campuses go to an organization like MEChA whose very title "Aztlan" refers to the notion of reclaiming parts of the southwestern United States under some Hispanic utopia, and whose affiliates at UC Berkeley and Pasadena City College were implicated in destroying campus newspapers deemed critical. I suggest Ms. Murguia also peruse The Voice of Aztlan, distributed on university campuses, in which disgusting anti-Semitic rants have been commonplace.
Ms. Murguia is absolutely right. We need to draw the line on real hate speech as it pertains to race and questions of ethnic identity and she could make a useful beginning by modifying the name of her very own organization.
"Finally, as part of his commitment to talking with all Americans during this presidential campaign, the McCain presidential campaign announced that John McCain will attend the La Raza Annual Convention in San Diego on July 14, 2008."
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/6dfbbff2-9e17-4dd1-b2a1-87e4287e69fb.htm
I think people are confusing NCLR (National Council of La Raza) with Mecha, La Raza Unido and other extreme organizations. I’ve been to the NCLR website and it looks pretty much like the NAACP and other race specific community help organizations.
I’m not defending the NCLR (La Raza is a general term used by many hispanic groups all over the spectrum) but I would like to know if anyone has specific information about this groups activities that would place them in the category of others that advocate the return of the Southwest US to Mexico, etc.
“His method of reaching out to hispanics is reaching out to an extreme racist reconquista org called “La Raza”. (The Race)”
Can you please support/verify this statement? Many hispanic groups use the term “La Raza” in one form or another, some good some bad, I want to make sure this group is the one you are referring to when you call it “an extreme racist reqonquista org”.
Bump, I’ve heard what you’ve mentioned before, unfortunately, the question was drowned out by knee jerking.
First, he is NOT talking to all Americans because he is not talking to me.
Second, I can not believe he is so stupid.
Hate speech?
“You old white people. It is your duty to die.”
HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT!
Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.
Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.”
Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, “The American southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”
Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”
Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187 proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens was the last gasp of white America in California.”
Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country ... I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”
Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”
Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”
Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos ...”
Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.
http://ccir.net/AUDIO/TakeoverOfAmericaCD/Menu.html
How about the fact that they directly fund the groups people acknowledge are racist and reconquista?
“The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.
Imagine Robert Byrd’s refusing to disavow the views of the KKK, or if Strom Thurmond had failed to admit segregation was wrong. Imagine Heritage or Brookings Foundation making grants to the American Nazi Party.”
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863
"People" = "Gente", but they don't call themselves "The National Council of El Gente". Remember that when they claim that Raza means "The People".
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How about the fact that they directly fund the groups people acknowledge are racist and reconquista?”
How about the fact that WE taxpayers fund LaRaza to the tune of $25 million a year?
If they promote and defend only one race, they are RACIST!
What part of that don’t you get? What is your vested interest, Bob J. Why are you always defending the indefensible if it’s about anything Mexican or those (SUTTON) who promote this invasion?
This is who McCain, Graham, Bush and a host of other republicans courts for votes.
HOW DARE HE!!!
MALKIN "Oops. Guess The National Council of La Raza didn't get the liberal talking-points manual: You're supposed to deny that reconquista exists. Supposed to label anyone who criticizes it as a delusional racist. "
The National Council of La Raza claims that reconquista is just a "code word" invented by "hate groups" who dreamed up the whole thing.
ALSO PERTINENT: Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading US Latino ad agency Grupo Gallegos about the Absolut vodka campaign, explained the reconquista-endorsing ad to The Los Angeles Times: "Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It's very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea."
And here's the words of Cuauhtli Minister of Information Nation of Aztlan La Voz de Aztlan: "Criminal racist elements (that's us) have already made death threats against certain occupation administrators and they will not stop at killing our civilians. We hope that the massacres of Mexicans that the White criminals have vowed to undertake are just the rantings of cowardly insane minds but we must take these threats seriously."
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Keep in mind, John McCain has appointed one of the "occupation adminstrators," Juan Hernandez, as his Hispanic outreach Director (Hernandez--a dual loyalty born-American---served in the Mexican Cabinet of Vicente Fox as Aztlan facilitator).
So that means a US politician is working hand in hand with "Aztlan occupation administrators" and will make sure the occupiers are armed and ready to kill us.........all with our own tax dollars.
“...but I would like to know if anyone has specific information about this groups activities that would place them in the category of others that advocate the return of the Southwest US to Mexico, etc.”
When I was in college in Southern California in 1969 there was a chicano group on campus that was forever talking about “la raza” and how they were going to take over California and Arizona (I don’t remember them saying anything about Texas, though). I remember them being almost uniformly clad in white T-shirts and blue jeans, and many had bandanas tied around their heads. I remember they had signs and flyers that had the term “la raza” prominently displayed, but I don’t know if they were, in fact, part of the National Council of La Raza. I remember them being punks.
Oh, we're all quite familiar with the NCLR on this site, thank you.
Although I daresay Team Juan doubtless hopes and prays otherwise.
“Yes, By All Means Let’s Discuss “hate speech”! (McCain announces he’ll speak before La Raza)”
Scum pandering to more scum.
I'm looking for specific evidence about the NCLR engaging in the kind os seditions AXTLAN activities as some have suggested here.
BTW - I'm not surprised they are for increasing hispanic immigration and a path to citizenship, but as I said, that covers about 90% of libs and the dem party so they are not much different.
I'm looking for significant evidence of the really nad stuff here like what is advocated by MECha, La Raza Unidos and other extreme organizations.
Agreed there are a lot of nuts out there pandering to the masses, but do you have anything specific about the NCLR?
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