[jjw]

I always get a chuckle of wonderment when some green brags that ETOH is “cheaper” than gasoline. When you factor in the mileage loss due to less heat of combustion of 15%(due to the right wing conspiracy), the true cost of ETOH is: 3.59/.85 =$3.74/gallon. Of course not counting the subsidy, which we should all be willing to pay, in order to “save the planet”& ‘punish the Arabs ( this to appeal to the average bitter white person”). barbra ann

Just curious, next summer, if gasoline is $5.75 a gallon, will your mind change, or will there be another reason to use oil? And better yet, when it is $10 a gallon, will you still have reason?

[gleeaikin]

Check out Butanol, it is much more efficient than ethanol, and can be made of a lot more different plant wastes. DuPont and another large company are looking into it. The BTUs on ethanol are 85,000, on butanol 110,000, and on gasoline 115,000, so you can see it is a lot more energetic than ethanol. Also it can be shipped through pipelines, is less volatile thus safer. The only problem is that it doesn’t smell so good. It may be marketable before cellulosic ethanol, or algae biodiesel, something to watch.