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Texas Polygamy Case Based on a Lie
LiveScience.com ^ | Thu May 22, 5:50 PM ET | Benjamin Radford

Posted on 05/23/2008 10:12:33 AM PDT by LeGrande

"The raid ­- resulting in the largest child custody case in American history - was based on a lie."

"Police traced the calls to 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman named Rozita Swinton. Swinton had earlier been arrested for making a false report, and accused of posing as "Jennifer," 16, who called 911 to report that her father had locked her in a basement for days. Swinton may also have posed as thirteen-year-old Dana Anderson, who was being sexually abused by her pastor and raped by her father. There is no evidence that Sarah, Jennifer, or Dana exist. Swinton remains a "person of interest" in the case, but has not been charged in connection to the raid. "


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KEYWORDS: cps; cpswatch; custody; demlies; flds; jeffs; swinton; texas
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To: LeGrande

Great post!


121 posted on 05/24/2008 7:36:46 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: deport

and all of that is fine. Let Due Process work and let the state convict them in a court of law where the evidentiary rules apply.

Until then, these people are innocent until PROVEN guilty.


122 posted on 05/24/2008 7:39:23 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: LeGrande
[I have been compiling a list of the Freedom lovers vs the lynch mod ]

Here you go, all you brave "Freedom Lovers" can get your kicks looking at the following pics of Jeffs with a 12 year old. Now a good portion of the kids at YFZ ranch are Jeffs, or cross bred with Jeffs henchmen.

Here, everyone who is proud of the FLDS "clean" lifestyle just pipe up now. No abuse there, no siree. Just look the other way and walk right on by. I mean, it's not like a commune of human breeding barns set up by a convicted patriarchal child molester would in any way be abusive to children.


123 posted on 05/24/2008 7:40:46 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: LeGrande

“I have been compiling a list of the Freedom lovers vs the lynch mod and was amazed by huge numbers who defend the constitution (178) vs the number in the Lynch Mob (15). It is a small minority, but they are massive posters.”

Sounds like political america doesn’t it?

The many being outshouted by the great unwashed.


124 posted on 05/24/2008 7:40:46 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: FastCoyote

Jeffs is in prison, your pictures don’t show anything that the authorities don’t already know and have convicted him of in a court of law.

If you have a liberal agenda and think people should be convicted on your narrow view of how the world should be, DU would be a much more comfortable place for you to be.


125 posted on 05/24/2008 7:43:30 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: LeGrande

126 posted on 05/24/2008 7:53:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
You'll notice the poster was unable to come up with that one, single name.

L

127 posted on 05/24/2008 7:59:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: tueffelhunden
[Jeffs is in prison, your pictures don’t show anything that the authorities don’t already know and have convicted him of in a court of law.

If you have a liberal agenda and think people should be convicted on your narrow view of how the world should be, DU would be a much more comfortable place for you to be.]

Jeffs was living on the ranch during this period, he wasn't in prison. And his buddies still believe he is the patriarch running the show. YFZ is Jeffs creation. But you know, everything will come out now, the judge is going to have full hearings on each and every case.

And why don't YOU go back to DU, that's where the sickos who are in to child molesting hang out. Here's another picture so you can get your jollies.


128 posted on 05/24/2008 8:00:45 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote
Here you go, all you brave "Freedom Lovers" can get your kicks looking at the following pics of Jeffs with a 12 year old. Now a good portion of the kids at YFZ ranch are Jeffs, or cross bred with Jeffs henchmen.

I just figured out what disgusts me about you cabal members. You are voyeurs. This whole FLDS situation turns you on doesn't it? I bet you and your pals get all hot and bothered talking about this stuff don't you? That explains your fixation and your motivation. I would suggest that you get medical help, but their track record of helping sexual perverts like you is dismal.

129 posted on 05/24/2008 8:01:01 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: tueffelhunden

[Nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever that any abuse has occurred. Nobody has been arrested for it and no charges have been filed.

Nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever that any abuse has occurred. Nobody has been arrested for it and no charges have been filed.

Nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever that any abuse has occurred. Nobody has been arrested for it and no charges have been filed.

Nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever that any abuse has occurred. Nobody has been arrested for it and no charges have been filed.

Nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever that any abuse has occurred. Nobody has been arrested for it and no charges have been filed.]

Do you stutter in real life as well? A) There certainly is evidence and B) the charges are coming.


130 posted on 05/24/2008 8:04:17 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Awestruck
They'll be hauling out the old billy goats eventually. Right now it's not a criminal procedure, but a civil process to keep children out of the beds of your "patriarchs"--LOL--that does sound better than Diusgusting Old Bugger, doesn't it? Anything resembling an actiual arrest is far away. It's hard enough to establish which child belongs to which mother--another way they keep their slaves confused. Then it'll be time enough to figure out which girl is both a neice and a mother to an the same man's grandaughter--then they'll be able to get your Patriarch.

Drool away. Must be quite the fantasy. Shudders.

You put no trust in CPS, but you trust in the ruling of one judge? As of now, a few of the kids are back with their mothers, if they are their mothers.

Gosh, these threads make me wonder how many RSOs are on FR. Makes me glad I was so paranoid at the playground.

131 posted on 05/24/2008 8:07:38 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Hankering after a harem? Too bad for you. Convert and head to SArabia.)
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To: All

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/SAL_ACCT.HTM

From June through September of 1692, nineteen men and women, all having been convicted of witchcraft, were carted to Gallows Hill, a barren slope near Salem Village, for hanging. Another man of over eighty years was pressed to death under heavy stones for refusing to submit to a trial on witchcraft charges. Hundreds of others faced accusations of witchcraft. Dozens languished in jail for months without trials. Then, almost as soon as it had begun, the hysteria that swept through Puritan Massachusetts ended.

snip

The witches disappeared, but witchhunting in America did not. Each generation must learn the lessons of history or risk repeating its mistakes. Salem should warn us to think hard about how to best safeguard and improve our system of justice.


132 posted on 05/24/2008 8:07:42 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: DannyTN

What is your point?


133 posted on 05/24/2008 8:09:05 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: FastCoyote

When the evidence produces charges then there can be a trial.

In the meantime no arrests have been made.

and good job with your snide little comments. That makes you look so very intelligent.


134 posted on 05/24/2008 8:09:53 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: Lurker

Yes, I did notice. I have been asking the same question for six weeks now and have not received an answer either.


135 posted on 05/24/2008 8:10:22 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FastCoyote

No DU is your location, people who depend on “feelings” and hate belong there.

I’m backing the rule of law. When charges are filed and people are convicted in a court of law, then they are guilty.

Unlike you who’s biggest argument is posting pictures of child molesters.


136 posted on 05/24/2008 8:12:38 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: LeGrande

Nothing about the old guy kissing the 12 year old seems wrong to you?

Of course, Jeffs is just doing exactly what Joseph Smith did.


137 posted on 05/24/2008 8:13:01 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: All

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/salemprocedure.HTM

PROCEDURE USED IN THE SALEM WITCHCRAFT TRIALS

1. The afflicted person makes a complaint to the Magistrate about a suspected witch. The complaint is sometimes made through a third person.

2. The Magistrate issues a warrant for the arrest of the accused person.

3. The accused person is taken into custody and examained by two or more Magistrates. If, after listening to testimony, the Magistrate believes that the accused person is probably guilty, the accused is sent to jail for possible reexamination and to await trial.

4. The case is presented to the Grand Jury. Depositions relating to the guilt or innocence of the accused are entered into evidence.

5. If the accused is indicted by the Grand Jury, he or she is tried before the Court of Oyer and Terminer. A jury, instructed by the Court, decides the defendant’s guilt.

6. The convicted defendant receives his or her sentence from the Court. In each case at Salem, the convicted defendant was sentenced to be hanged on a specified date.

7. The Sheriff and his deputies carry out the sentence of death on the specified date.


138 posted on 05/24/2008 8:13:13 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: abb

Unfortunately we have alot of witch hunters in our midst.

Their hysteria proves it.


139 posted on 05/24/2008 8:13:50 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: LeGrande

[I just figured out what disgusts me about you cabal members. You are voyeurs. This whole FLDS situation turns you on doesn’t it? I bet you and your pals get all hot and bothered talking about this stuff don’t you? That explains your fixation and your motivation. I would suggest that you get medical help, but their track record of helping sexual perverts like you is dismal. ]

You guys are the ones defending the Jeffs clan tooth and nail, so we all know who the true perverts are. You just want to brush it under the rug, hide what is really going on with legalisms worthy of the ACLU. Just because you can’t stand the light of day being shone on the pervs you are protecting doesn’t mean horrible things aren’t happening.

You all have said that “there is no evidence”. Now when someone provides pictorial evidence of what was obviously a common occurrence, you can’t take the truth.

[I would suggest that you get medical help, but their track record of helping sexual perverts like you is dismal.]

Maybe that medical help should go to the FLDS patriarchs you are defending first, let’s see how much good it does them.

Please, “Freedon Lovers”, please tell us how great the parenting is at YFZ, there appears to have been a lot of it done by 13 year olds.


140 posted on 05/24/2008 8:14:05 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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