Legrande: As usual running dog is lying, it was comments on the CPS’s kidnapping of adult women. And that the federal penalty for kidnapping under the color of law can be the death penalty.
So, you are saying the CPS are subject to the death penalty for their efforts in Eldorado????? Tres bizarre.
Legrande: Missed the SCOTUS decision did you? Look it up, ignorance is no excuse. You really don't have any kind of legal background or knowledge at all, do you? That was a rhetorical question.
By your extraterrestrial logic, it would be illegal for Law Enforcement to act until after a murder occurred. Since that is patently absurd, I think you are digging a hole to China at this point.
Legrande: Just more lies as usual. I do not defend the FLDS and you can't prove that JS was polygamous.
No, you don't defend the FLDS, any more than you habitually defend the LDS (wink, wink). And regarding JS polygamy:
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Fanny Alger is Joseph's first known plural wife, whom he came to know in Kirtland during early 1833 when she, at the age of 16, stayed at his home as a housemaid. Described as “a varry nice & Comly young woman,” according to Benjamin Johnson, Fanny lived with the Smith family from 1833 to 1836.
Martin Harris, one of the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon, recalled that the prophet's “servant girl” claimed he had made “improper proposals to her, which created quite a talk amongst the people.” Mormon Fanny Brewer similarly reported “much excitement against the Prophet…[involving] an unlawful intercourse between himself and a young orphan girl residing in his family and under his protection.”
Former Mormon apostle William McLellin later wrote that Emma Smith substantiated the Smith-Alger affair. According to McLellin, Emma was searching for her husband and Alger one evening when through a crack in the barn door she saw “him and Fanny in the barn together alone” on the hay mow. McLellin, in a letter to one of Smith's sons, added that the ensuing confrontation between Emma and her husband grew so heated that Rigdon, Frederick G. Williams, and Oliver Cowdery had to mediate the situation. After Emma related what she had witnessed, Smith, according to McLellin, “confessed humbly, and begged forgiveness. Emma and all forgave him.” While Oliver Cowdery may have forgiven his cousin Joseph Smith, he did not forget the incident. Three years later, when provoked by the prophet, Cowdery countered by calling the Fanny Alger episode “a dirty, nasty, filthy affair.”
Chauncey Webb recounts Emma’s later discovery of the relationship: “Emma was furious, and drove the girl, who was unable to conceal the consequences of her celestial relation with the prophet, out of her house”.
SOURCE: Richard S. Van Wagoner, Sidney Rigdon, p.291
At least one account indicates that Fanny became pregnant. Chauncy G. Webb, Smith's grammar teacher, later reported that when the pregnancy became evident, Emma Smith drove Fanny from her home (Wyl 1886, 57). Webb's daughter, Ann Eliza Webb Young, a divorced wife of Brigham Young, remembered that Fanny was taken into the Webb home on a temporary basis (Young 1876, 66-67). Fanny stayed with relatives in nearby Mayfield until about the time Joseph fled Kirtland for Missouri.
Fanny left Kirtland in September 1836 with her family. Though she married non-Mormon Solomon Custer on 16 November 183614 and was living in Dublin City, Indiana, far from Kirtland, her name still raised eyebrows. Fanny Brewer, a Mormon visitor to Kirtland in 1837, observed “much excitement against the Prophet … [involving] an unlawful intercourse between himself and a young orphan girl residing in his family and under his protection” (Parkin 1966, 174).
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Legrande: No, you are a sexual deviant because of the comment that you made when you posted to the picture. Implying that we could get our kicks looking at a 12 year old girls proves that you are one sick pervert.
You know what, you deserve zero consideration. While I doubt you are gratified by those pictures, you are certainly gratified being an enabler and collaborator with those who are child molesters. When I see a thread started by you that discusses ONE SINGLE POSITIVE ASPECT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THE FLDS then you will have some credibility. But so far all I see is an enabler.
FC:And the hysterical claims that we are a Cabal - though clearly a Mormon cabal also exists.
Legrande: Could syphilis cause that kind of reasoning?
Wow, now that's clever Legrande, it puts you in the same class logician debaters as a sailor on port leave. So on this thread alone you have called me a running dog, sex pervert, cabal member, syphilitic, liar, member of a lynch mob.
So one of two things are true, either I am the worst person to have ever walked the face of the earth, OR you have a few marbles loose and can only attempt to win arguments through crude epithets. While I guarantee I am not syphilitic as you graciously claim, the above does give rather ample evidence of your being afflicted by Turet’s syndrome.
FC: At some point above, you lost all credibility, not only to myself but to anyone following this discourse. All I’m doing is slowly prying out the real you for all to see, a very vindictive name caller who though an atheist pines for the good old days snuggling at the feet of Hugh Nibley.
Legrande: You really, really should seek counseling.
Once again, a unique and clever remark from you I have not encountered since, oh, about sixth grade. Maybe you should suggest counseling instead for your friends in the FLDS, you know, the grown men and women there who have the mental capabilities of 13 year olds.
I am saying that anyone who kidnaps someone, by falsely using the law, is guilty of a crime that is punishable by death. Do you need a reference?
By your extraterrestrial logic, it would be illegal for Law Enforcement to act until after a murder occurred. Since that is patently absurd, I think you are digging a hole to China at this point.
That is almost correct. Law enforcement has no obligation to act until after a crime has been committed. In your world policemen somehow have the power to read minds and know what someone is going to do. I guess that explains your view of the CPS, you think that they can predict the future.
No, you don't defend the FLDS, any more than you habitually defend the LDS (wink, wink). And regarding JS polygamy:
This is getting tiring, please provide contemporaneous evidence or DNA results. How in the world could JS have had all of those wives and no heirs, except through Emma?
You know what, you deserve zero consideration. While I doubt you are gratified by those pictures, you are certainly gratified being an enabler and collaborator with those who are child molesters. When I see a thread started by you that discusses ONE SINGLE POSITIVE ASPECT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THE FLDS then you will have some credibility. But so far all I see is an enabler.
I doubt that you will ever see me post an article that supports any law enforcement agency. By your logic that makes me an enabler of all crime? LOL What you have shown is that you get your kicks spreading kiddy porn, and that makes you one sick pervert.
Wow, now that's clever Legrande, it puts you in the same class logician debaters as a sailor on port leave. So on this thread alone you have called me a running dog, sex pervert, cabal member, syphilitic, liar, member of a lynch mob.
I see that the truth hurts. Maybe you should learn not to lie or spam people with your sick twisted porn.
So one of two things are true, either I am the worst person to have ever walked the face of the earth, OR you have a few marbles loose and can only attempt to win arguments through crude epithets. While I guarantee I am not syphilitic as you graciously claim, the above does give rather ample evidence of your being afflicted by Turet’s syndrome.
Well, at least you don't deny that you are a liar or a pervert, that is a start.