[Heartofsong83]

Those are some of the most insane comments I have ever seen. Shows anyone who cares about gun rights is NOT welcome in Toronto the Bad.

Site created by a gun rights group: www.torontothebad.com

[domenad]

This is Canada. There is no 1st amendment in Canada, and there’s no 2nd amendment in Canada. That’s why Canadians come down here and we don’t really bother going up there. What for?

[ZULU]

“I believe it is hypocritical for city council to call for a total ban on handguns, while supporting and in fact subsidizing gun culture at city-run facilities>”

Its also hypocritical to believe that you support a democracy when you want to prevent the public from access to the tools that insure a demcratic government.

[ConservaTexan]

If all it took was closing a couple of shooting ranges to stop gun-toting Yanks from coming to our city, maybe we should have shut the doors on these clubs years ago.

What the hell has Canada ever done worthwhile? As far as I can tell their only contribution to modern society is the Canadarm, the robotic arm on the space shuttle (like we couldn't have built that). After they built it, they had to put an oversized Canadian flag on it, just to remind the world that they still exist.

[paul51]

If some of these arrogant AH were half as intelligent as they think they are, they would be able to distinguish between firearms in the hands of responsible law abiding people and firearms in the hands of thugs. As far as they are concerned, it has nothing at all to do with crime or violence. The target is firearms, period. If the people in Toronto want to live with that, as well as an arrogant pea brain running their city, that's their business. If not, that's their business too.

[Joe Brower]

I know a fellow who is involved with this; yeah, it's out of control. He is also one of the founders and an admin of http://canadacarry.org. Here are his comments to me:

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We've got a situation happening with Toronto's mayor. He's an extremist anti-gun, anti-rights, anti-self-defense wack job. Has no qualms with uttering bald-faced lies to the public and press, and has been calling for a nation-wide handgun ban for over a year.

He's now proposing to change Toronto zoning and bylaws to close all ranges and shut down all firearms businesses. He's on a real "get tough" crusade against ... law-abiding citizens. He's too terrified actually to do anything about the rampant gang crime and violence; it's so much easier to attack the good guys for political points.

Along with decent Canadians, he also (of course) blames Americans for Toronto's "gun crime" problem. Anything but his lack of leadership.

A few of us in the CSSA (Canada's "NRA" http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/), and CILA (the Canadian Institute for Legislative Action) have put up a website with which we hope to apply pressure to Toronto city hall, right where it hurts: in the pocketbook.

The press is on this, the iron is hot, and we need to move quickly.

I'm hoping you can get the website URL (http://TorontoTheBad.com/) out to as many folks as possible, and ask them to go to the site, and send an email. Freep, your own lists, whatever.

Tell them this:

For the last three years, the Mayor of Toronto, David Miller, has been blaming trustworthy, legal firearms owners for the gun related drug crime taking place in his city. At first it was thought that the Mayor was simply uninformed about the real facts pertaining to lawful firearms ownership in Canada. But despite the huge efforts of groups such as the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the Canadian Institute for Legislative Action, the mayor continues to spew his anti-gun rhetoric.

Mayor Miller has targeted the two million legal owners of firearms in Canada and his statements cast aspersion upon the 80 million lawful firearms owners of our closest friend and ally, the United States of America. He has completely misrepresented the truth about firearms ownership, stating that half of the firearms used in crime are stolen from Canadian owners and the other half are smuggled in from the U.S. because of lax gun laws and careless owners. The Mayor has drawn his battle lines. He can work against lawful gun owners if he chooses but the millions of safe, legal, responsible people who happen to own firearms have a choice too.... But we can vote with our wallets.

Mayor Miller says "there are no economic consequences" to his hate campaign against firearms owners.

Let Mayor Miller know: We clearly understand that lawful firearms owners are not welcome in his city. Let him know that we, our loved ones, our friends and anyone else we care to influence will stand by us and will choose another place to spend our money.

Please go to http://TorontoTheBad.com/ and click on the link "Send an email to the Toronto City Council... click here!"

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Go get 'em, folks.

[garyhope]

To paraphrase John Lott: Less guns, more crime.

The Canadians and the UK have it backwards.

[KarinG1]

I’m all for banning guns in Canada. Also gay marriage, higher taxes, abortion on demand and anything else that might attract liberals up there. I wasn’t planning to leave Texas anyway.

[Catholic Canadian]

This is my letter to the mayor and several councillors: Dear Mayor Miller, I am one of the millions of people that responsibly own firearms. I clearly understand that firearms owners are not welcome in the City of Toronto and I will respect your wishes. Unfortunately, I live in Toronto. I keep and store my shotgun, which I use for Skeet shooting outside of Toronto, Safely. I legally own this gun as per Federal Law. I don't appreciate being called a criminal. You are equating me with gang members who produce and distribute narcotics such as cocaine, crack and crystal meth. If you did something to clean up these problems, then I think it would go a lot farther towards solving Toronto's gun crime issue than taking away my hobby. Unfortunately, being a left wing nutter, your agenda is not actually to fix our gun crime problem, it's likely something far different. However, I'm sure you will throw another temper tantrum and hissy fit if you do not get your way, much like you did last year when your land tax grab didn't go through immediately. You are 100% marxist and seem to be following a marxist agenda rather than tackle important issues - this is because you are for all intents and purposes impotent. Sincerely, XXXX XXXXXXX

[TC Rider]

Wow, so anti-gun. I guess they’ll be shutting down Para-Ordnance and moving the factory south of the border.

waiting

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crickets

[Travis McGee]

Translation: "We only want the criminals to shoot guns in Tornonto!"

How liberals and conservatives see firearms:

[Heartofsong83]

Letter in response:

Not wanted in the city

May 31, 2008 04:30 AM
Re:Guns aren’t welcome in Toronto

Letter, May 30

Gun owners are by far the safest and most law-abiding segment of the population, yet Adam Vaughan would bar us from entering the city because of his misguided belief that this will make Toronto safer.

If gun owners are not wanted in Toronto, I’m sure we can find other places to spend our money.

Chris Manoukian, Stittsville, Ont.