Posted on 06/07/2008 6:33:28 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
Well said.
Which is more likely: (1) Third-party conservatives gobble up a significant share of non-Obama votes in states like Illinois, or (2) Obama loses Illinois, but somehow gets 270 Electoral votes.
I want McCain to win, but with the closest thing possible to an unmistakable "You're too liberal" no-confidence vote. If Illinois were to e.g. go 80-10-10 for Obama/McCain/Barr that would pretty well discredit the notion that politicians need to run leftward to win close races.
If McCain wins without any evidence that his liberalism hurt, he's going to run well leftward of where he is now, but he'll ensure that conservatives get blamed for all his shortcomings.
You nailed it!
Yes, that’s two reasons :)
I thought you were just trying to be funny in the other post but now I realize you’re lefttard. As far as calling a war hero a POS, I suggest you look in the mirror POS.
I’d like to hope, with you, that we had a voice. I’d like to hope that there was a reason to pull that level come November.
I’d wish that Senator McCain would acknowledge and give his solemn word that he would first protect our borders and enforce the laws, to ensure our sovereignty. I’d wish that he would give explicit precedence to the Constitution as we all here would ourselves in the same position.
I’d like my vote to really count - to have a chance at stopping Obama with a candidate who I could definitely trust.
But you, and I, and the dog all know that isn’t the case. Not to shovel dirt or remind us about McCain’s flaws and mistakes. No, that isn’t it. We all know this election is already over.
Let’s all be honest - we’re all adults here - we don’t need to really beat around the bush anymore. We all know we’ve been had. We all know the election is and will be what the media has decided. If we had a compelling candidate, it would not have mattered at all. The election has been stolen, our franchise has been lost, our republic is captive to an unelected, radical media.
I’d love to hope, I’d love to think my vote was still a vote, but it isn’t. It’s a gesture, a ritual without meaning, a vote that will not be counted. The election is over, the media will not allow us to be counted as citizens any more. They have decided, they have taken over the public square and will do anything and everything to push their annointed tyrant to his throne.
Our votes will not count. Our campaign, no matter who runs, will be drowned. Our franchise is forfeit, and we all know it.
Arguing about McCain is like arguing about the hairstyle of your neighbor while you are being sold into slavery.
It isn’t the time for that. What it is, is the time to plan. How will we resist? How can we keep our children from having this horrible event happening again and again? How can we fight back? It is time to put aside funds for lawyers, so you can sue when the unConstitutional pronouncements come from the lips of the Tyrant Obama in the months to come. It is time to scrimp and save and ration - privately - because at this moment in time, we are at War here at Home, and must act accordingly.
We have an advantage - we know we are seeing the rise of despotism. We also know how the Left has abused our judicial system to gut the Constitution. We know how they did it - now, we do it to them. Every moment of every day, spend time researching, planning, saving, speaking. Be forthright, be truthful, gather facts and historical records before they fade behind the clouds of bull$#it that the left will use to obscure their guilt.
They have stolen this election. Now, it’s time to prepare to fight back.
Take a deep breath usmcobra and rethink your position...please :)
This is such an important election. One would suppose that the GOP learned something from 2006, when we warned it that it was in serious trouble, and that the electorate was going left. The GOP knew better, dissed the conservatives once again,allowed the media to Foley it for three weeks, and the Dems had them for lunch—electing posers acting as conservatives!!!!
So now it is 2008, and the most disloyal, back stabbing Republican is anointed as our nominee. Having completely lost their collective mind, the GOP thinks that running an old war hero is even going to register with a left-leaning, change-demanding, sick-of-Iraq, dumbed-down electorate.
Besides, John McLame believes in the same policies as Obama and Clinton. Once you make 30 million Mexicans citizens and strangle the economy with cap’n’trade carbon credits, you don’t need a policy on terrorism. America is done, and the Islamics don’t even have to don their explosive vests.
McCain is not going to change his stripes. Lots of folks here are trying to come to grips with the fact that he’s our man and he’s better than Obama. Well, good luck with that, because Johnny boy will disappoint every time.Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
It is amusing that Obama and McCain, having not even gotten to the conventions, are about to embark on debates.
Well, allow me to torgue up the wrench and throw it into the works of the conventional wisdom: here’s my take on things:
McCain and Obama will knock themselves out in June, July, August. By August, enough will come out about Obama, that the Dems are going to have buyer’s remorse about him. But not to worry, Hillary! is waiting in the wings to be annointed the savior of the Dem Party.
And if that happens, no way the old fart beats the first woman candidate for the Presidency.
With any luck, by early September enough Republicans will have buyer’s remorse about McLoser, and change the horse in the race at the convention. The truth is—that is the only thing that will remotely help us win the Presidency. If that does not happen, prepare to watch a Democrat take the oath of office on 1/20/09.
2008 will make 2006 look like a walk in the park. The Dem tsunami is rolling, and no matter who their candidate is,Obama or Hillary!, they will win.
We can only hope that we get enough GOP Senators to make it tough for the Dems to steamroller their agenda through Congress. But then again, there’s a lot of Republicans in Congress who are downright useless and might as well be
Dems anyway.
The GOP needs to replace its elephant symbol with a giant screw, because that is what they excel in doing.
And I’m out of Vaseline.
“I thought you were just trying to be funny in the other post but now I realize you’re lefttard. As far as calling a war hero a POS, I suggest you look in the mirror POS.”
So do you consider asshats like Murtha to be war heroes? How about Kerry? They served. Have you any posts in your history about them? Using your “logic” would not those posts make you a “lefttard?” Juanito WAS/IS a war hero, AND a POS.
Just because he did something honorable 40 years ago, does not mean that the POS gets a pass for the HORRIBLE things that he has done in the meantime, nor is he owed the Presidency for having been a prisoner of war. The Presidency is about far more than war, military issues and what someone once did decades ago that was honorable.
I have said over and over on this forum that I will vote for Juanito conditional upon his VP choice. If it’s a conservative, I vote for the conservative....if that creep has to be on the ticket as well.....so be it. I don’t think it will come to that though, I believe that he will be picking a Liebermann, Light Loafers Lindsay, Closet Crist or some other such liberal. Hell, he could pick Hillary and your type will be slobbering and roaring at the rest of us to support that electoral abortion!
Ok, I have. Can I vote for Bush AGAIN.
No you won’t, you want to be told that you should vote for McCain.
Obama is someone’s sock puppet, but if you don’t vote for McCain it is as good as a vote for Obama.
The reason so many conservatives hate John McCain is simple he is a leader not a follower and as a leader He follows what he believes in rather than the whim of the people. In difficult times we need leadership, we don’t want some reincarnation of JC (Jimmy Carter) at the helm trying to be all things to all people especially to our enemies.
Vote for John McCain if for no other reason then to piss off democrats who think of him as the second coming of Bob Dole.
Let's call a spade a spade, shall we? No matter which of the annointed one votes for, this (one world government, AKA "New World Order", as 'daddy' Bush called it) is the agenda being served.
It is only a question of whether you want your Country served up medium rare or well done.
I am watching to see who/what McCain ends up with for a VPOTUS candidate, but the general unrepentant attitude of the RNC insofar as 'we have no other choice so we will take what they give us' does not sit well with me.
This entire primary season has reeked from the start of manipulation and subterfuge, and when the election is over, things will only get worse, no matter who wins.
Yes, I understand that some flavors of 'worse' are worse than others, in that they will take more to recover from (if we do), but unless we can either gather a third party which is viable, or get the RNC to at least GIVE A D@MN what Conservatives think, we will be flying headlong down the slippery slope to 'global order' or destruction from within. No enemy can beat us from the outside without suffering tremendous losses, subterfuge is the weapon of choice, and it is present on both sides of the aisle.
LOL... :)
Let’s think this out.....
Conservatives hate McCain so they decide to vote libertarian Bob Barr knowing that to do so will give Obama the win.
Now tell me who are the RINO’s again?
I say that not voting for the republican candidate because he doesn’t have conservative views you have makes one a RINO as much as McCain is supposed to be.
That's right--that's why he pushed unconditional amnesty on us, not once, but twice, in 2007, because he is aleader and doesn't follow the whim of the people, who overwhelmingly rejected his stupid, country-killing amnesty scheme. The whim of the people kicked him upside the head on that one.
And let's not forget that the whim of the people is that global warming is a hoax and that a $ 6.7 trillion tax in the form of a carbon cap and trade program, also a country killer, is overwhelmingly rejected by the people that McLoser wants to lead, but nevertheless McLame believes in this program with the fervor of an environmentalist nutjob.
And who can forget McQueeg's leadership on the POW/MIA issue when he shut down the Senate Select Committee in 1992 and told off the POW/MIA families of the 600 POWs that we KNOW didn't come back from SE Asia to get lost. Yeah, that sure is not "following the whims of the people".
McLame is a seriously flawed candidate who will not win in November. Like in 1992 and 1996, the GOP is running a very old mand against a young man, thinking that something the old man did 40 years ago is relevant today.
I guess the GOP is just a glutton for punishment.
We need a new horse in this race by the convention.
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