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Treaty tensions mount as Iraq tells the US it wants all troops back in barracks
The Times (UK) ^ | June 9, 2008 | Deborah Haynes in Baghdad

Posted on 06/09/2008 9:38:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 06/09/2008 9:38:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
American troops in Iraq would be confined to their bases and private security guards subject to local law if Iraq gets its way in negotiations with the US over the future status of American forces.

If this stands then we should immediately withdraw all US and private security forces.

2 posted on 06/09/2008 9:40:46 AM PDT by BRITinUSA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m in a bad mood today so I should only comment that I won’t comment.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 9:40:49 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...
fyi

Related thread:

Iraq says it wants to restrict movement of U.S. troops

4 posted on 06/09/2008 9:41:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bullpoop alarmism from the press, frankly.


5 posted on 06/09/2008 9:42:23 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

OK.... time for us to leave.

BUT.... we need to tell the that if we have to come back, there won’t be one living soul left in their sand-pit heaven.


6 posted on 06/09/2008 9:42:53 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Bullpoop alarmism from the press, frankly.

You nailed it.

7 posted on 06/09/2008 9:43:22 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Where's this coming from? - I thought things were improving.

Have they contracted our disease (Liberal activists seeking destruction of own country)?

8 posted on 06/09/2008 9:44:16 AM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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Well,...see link at #4...


9 posted on 06/09/2008 9:47:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: the anti-liberal

Look at the cuties in the photo. Tells you all you need to know.


10 posted on 06/09/2008 9:47:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This kind of crap clearly illustrates why you do your best to stay out of wars. BUT — if you decide that war is necessary (and I believe it WAS necessary in Iraq) —

You defeat the enemy utterly. Completely. You humiliate them. You make them understand, and believe, and KNOW, that you are in total control and they are powerless. You kill as many and destroy as much as is necessary to achieve this, “collateral damage” be DAMNED. If protest arises, armed or otherwise, you put it down IMMEDIATELY with extreme prejudice.

If you let your state department rather than your military fight your wars — particularly if you let your state department (or your supposed European “allies”) tell you when you are finished fighting — you end up with this crap.

Any president not 100% committed to WINNING a war ought not to START a war.


11 posted on 06/09/2008 9:49:43 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sure, let’s give terrorists free reign. Who’s in favor? Only bin Laden, Iran, and the Rats, as far as I know. Bush needs to call up al-Malarkey and lay down the law, not reassure him.


12 posted on 06/09/2008 9:49:43 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: the anti-liberal
Related thread:

Would prominent Islamists be turning non-violent if violence hadn't failed so spectacularly in Iraq?

13 posted on 06/09/2008 9:55:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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Bullpoop alarmism from the press, frankly.

Of course. They've taken a couple of quotes, smeared their hyperbolic spin all over it and made it look like something it's not.

It's what the media does.

14 posted on 06/09/2008 9:59:23 AM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a nephew who has been there for 4 mos., army Lt. South of Baghdad. He and his outfit are bored out of their minds, bordering on depression. He says many other units in the same shape. He says there are many peaceful areas. It begs the question, do we really need so many troops there, maybe we can start withdrawing some troops? I realize the need for a “presence”, but how much?

Or does Washington look at Iraq as a launching pad for Iran?


15 posted on 06/09/2008 10:00:00 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: livius
Look at the cuties in the photo. Tells you all you need to know.

Thousands of demonstrators in masks, out of a country of about 30 million. Doesn't look like an overwhelming majority to me. Plus, how many of those guys are tourists?

16 posted on 06/09/2008 10:00:17 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Shouldn’t the goal be for the Iraqis to step up and take control? If that is the case, and they are able, than the proper place for US troops is on the bases.

Just one man’s opinion but I think it is a positive sign that Iraqis are asking to take control of things on their own.


17 posted on 06/09/2008 10:00:55 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fringe element.


18 posted on 06/09/2008 10:03:48 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: pissant

Yes, it’s The Times (UK), Reuters and Al Sadr block chiming in (note the Al Sadr poster in the picture).


19 posted on 06/09/2008 10:04:24 AM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: pissant

“Bullpoop alarmism from the press, frankly.”

Exactly. Spun to the max.

“Several thousand” protesters “throughout the country?”

A fart in a windstorm. Zero relevance.


20 posted on 06/09/2008 10:06:18 AM PDT by StatenIsland (The '08 Election: It's about the survival of our country, not making a point...)
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