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A Real Energy Strategy for America: Shale Oil (One Answer to the Energy Crisis)
New Media Journal ^ | May 31, 2008 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 06/09/2008 4:48:39 PM PDT by Moseley

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1 posted on 06/09/2008 4:50:05 PM PDT by Moseley
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They make mini nukes now, similar to the power plants on submarines that could power a mid-sized town, or stacked together, a large city or sparsely populated state. We then switch to electric cars, trains, buses and etc...
2 posted on 06/09/2008 4:53:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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It’s all good to me. With electric, the power has to come from somewhere, though. As far as nukes go, I have had rumors of plans for nuclear-powered cars. Checking into that.

In terms of generating electricity for the long-term, do a search for “Solar Power Satellites.” I will be doing an article on that in the future. We can beam power from the sun from space and power mankind forever.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 4:57:32 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.TheBidenQuiz.com)
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let us all ask President Bush to just sign an executive order to open the land that Bill Clinton lock up with and executive order so he could get lots of money from Riady for his reelection in ‘96


4 posted on 06/09/2008 4:59:11 PM PDT by primatreat ("Flight animals are generally a nice source of food".)
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let us all ask President Bush to just sign an executive order to open the land that Bill Clinton lock up with and executive order so he could get lots of money from Riady for his reelection in ‘96


5 posted on 06/09/2008 4:59:12 PM PDT by primatreat ("Flight animals are generally a nice source of food".)
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That’s never been the problem.
this is the problem...
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/06/020696.php


6 posted on 06/09/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by philo
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My dad managed a plant materials center in Meeker CO in the mid 70’s. It was basically a seed farm. They grew native plants for their seed, to be used in replanting areas that had been strip-mined for coal and oil shale.


7 posted on 06/09/2008 5:15:24 PM PDT by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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Just damn.

Eastonia (who the hell is that?) can extract shale oil, but the US can’t.


8 posted on 06/09/2008 5:19:52 PM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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Yes, we are the only country on earth that denies itself its own natural resources.


10 posted on 06/09/2008 5:42:37 PM PDT by G.Love (Romney '12)
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Keep in mind that it is not just oil that we are buying from unfriendly nations.

If other nations are self sufficient for oil, why is it that we can’t be? It is obvious that “engaging” these other countries to get resources is causing a disaster.

It has been proved that globalism is not producing the desired results in many areas of our economy. Instead of buying peace, we are setting ourselves up for future and continuing conflicts.

We have to become self sufficient again, or we will be plunged in to another worldwide conflict. Obama wants surrender now, and McCain is too timid to do the right thing.


11 posted on 06/09/2008 5:42:48 PM PDT by LongTimeMILurker
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Shale oil production in Colorado is prohibited by congress. Next.


12 posted on 06/09/2008 5:49:06 PM PDT by saganite
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Fine - and let me hire a tanker to bring in Brazil fuel for our cars without the import duty.

Why dont we charge import duties on the terrorist fuel from Russian and Iran and Venezuela?


13 posted on 06/09/2008 5:49:41 PM PDT by spanalot
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Shale oil production in Colorado is prohibited by congress. Next.

Exactly. That's why McCain can turn this into a highly effective campaign issue.

Sometime soon he should introduce a bill to allow exploitation of the shale. Then he can rail against the democrats and Obama for opposing it on the campaign trail.

It would also help him secure Colorado's electoral votes, and possibly South Dakota's too.

It's perfect.

14 posted on 06/09/2008 6:08:56 PM PDT by curiosity
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Sometime soon he should introduce a bill to allow exploitation of the shale. Then he can rail against the democrats and Obama for opposing it on the campaign trail.

Oh please! McCain is dedicated to carbon trading schemes and signs on to the GW nonsense. What makes you think he’ll act like a conservative in the general election when he’s trying to court independents and Democrats who don’t like Obama. Get real.


15 posted on 06/09/2008 6:14:05 PM PDT by saganite
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I’d guess that 90% of Americans know nothing about this. And I’ll bet my next week’s ration of custard-filled doughnuts that McCain will never mention it.


16 posted on 06/09/2008 6:18:46 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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Oh please! McCain is dedicated to carbon trading schemes and signs on to the GW nonsense.

Carbon trading and opening up shale oil for extraction are not inconsistent positions.

In fact, favoring both would fit his (undeserved) "maverick" image quite well, as he's supporting his party on one dimension and opposing it on another. In addtion, both positions appeal to moderates and independents.

McCain has already sent some trial balloons out indicating he favors more domestic oil production. Within the next few weeks, we'll see him come out for it more aggresively.

You heard it here first.

17 posted on 06/09/2008 6:26:20 PM PDT by curiosity
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Official Washington decided a long time ago that extracting oil from shale is too expensive.

Considering they don't know the difference between a profit amount and a profit percentage, "Official Washington" needs to get the He11 out of the energy business.

The 535 persons that are Congress have proved time after time that they know nothing about free enterprise and innovation.

18 posted on 06/09/2008 6:48:34 PM PDT by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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Shale oil production in Colorado is prohibited by congress. Next.

Wrong. Shell has / had permits for tests on BLM land. [If it really is "had" it is because they were working on refining their next application.] Other techniques may not be economic if we get the collapse in oil prices many are cheering for. Who wants to invest a billion or so in start up costs if oil really is a bubble?

Not all the area or the mineral rights are owned by the Feds. Some is privately owned ... some is owned by the States of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming.

The problem with oil shale is that the Shell technique is extremely capital intensive and has not been executed on an industrial scale. There is some sentiment that oil shale is the fuel of the future ... and always will be. This isn't my take on the situation, but if you are looking for a short term fix, look somewhere other than oil shale. If the Shell process works, it will still be a while and then don't expect the production rates to look like multiple Ghawars as some have implied based on the amount of kerogen in the Green River formation. It will take a lot of time and a lot of investment to coax the oil out of the rocks.

19 posted on 06/09/2008 8:52:45 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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Always be suspicious of writers who think Utah, Wyoming and Colorado are part of the Midwest.


20 posted on 06/09/2008 8:54:43 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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