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Decision coming June 16, next big day in Haditha case
Defend Our Marines ^ | June 9, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 06/09/2008 6:32:39 PM PDT by RedRover

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To: Lancey Howard

Some people are making money off this case, and it sure aint the fmroer Marines, we are the true believers here.


181 posted on 06/15/2008 7:45:07 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: freema; Lancey Howard; euphoriadev; xzins

you did just fine, I wish you didn’t hold back

some people here need a butt chewing for the things they say online, and then whine when they are called on it

I am totally disgusted with NEWSMAX for their phony concern, they openly told us on the phone that they covered Haditha because it involved a sitting congressman and would sell news, yet Pendleton 8 didn’t sell news!

I dont know anyone who isn’t happy that Rover posts the article shere, but there is so much going on behind the scenes that just make me so angry, and some of those people are here online and are blindly supported


182 posted on 06/15/2008 7:53:00 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: lilycicero

Ya hi. Here’s a clue:

- All the cases are related, from the investigators to the attorneys to the players. It’s not a hijack.

- Donahue is engaged in half these cases, or trying to be. Your friend, of all people, is well aware of what happens when the Major gets involved.

Good grief. Why you’re running your mouth to people you don’t know is beyond me—especially when they haven’t said a word to you. I wasn’t the one who posted the article here, but I’ll go post my own thread. Do me a favor and stay off of it.


183 posted on 06/15/2008 7:54:41 AM PDT by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Lange)
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To: euphoriadev

I was going to post it for you, I just wasn’t sure it was time


184 posted on 06/15/2008 7:56:59 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RedRover
Red! I've asked a question. Several in fact. I absolutely do not understand your antagonism.

This is exactly about about unwarranted conclusions, ugly suggestions, and smearing people, but it's not me doing it. I can't believe you said that! According to that logic we are only permitted to question the motives of those in the brig. It's ok for Donahue to smear Captain Greenlaw, etc., etc., etc. or perhaps you didn't you read the link above? Or is it that the Hamdania cheese truly does stand alone? Race is the point man for Hamdania here. But everytime Hamdania comes up, you make a big deal about it. Tell me I'm wrong. So you and Race don't get along- do the Pendleton 8 need to suffer for it?

185 posted on 06/15/2008 8:00:09 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: lilycicero; RedRover; All
Well since this is Father's Day, and Lt. Col. Chessani has a lot of experience in that field (6 children?)



HAPPY FATHER'S DAY, LT. COL. CHESSANI!

186 posted on 06/15/2008 8:05:36 AM PDT by Girlene (And to all the fathers who visit these threads)
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To: fighting for a ranger

Thank you, circeo for being a good FR friend. Your the best.keep up the good work.


187 posted on 06/15/2008 8:07:17 AM PDT by fighting for a ranger (Too friends in high places!)
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To: euphoriadev

Kit Kat nobody has heard of you outside FR and I have never been on your threads.

Unlike you, I do things without wanting recognition and you will never know how rewarding that can be.


188 posted on 06/15/2008 8:09:15 AM PDT by lilycicero
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To: fighting for a ranger

Happy Father’s day to some Ranger’s I know.


189 posted on 06/15/2008 8:09:53 AM PDT by fighting for a ranger (Ranger's lead the way.)
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To: RedRover; freema; RaceBannon; flightline

Donahue is not donating his own money. He’s using funds that he claims his organization raised, among others. Of course, that’s what he says in emails. As we all know, he’s lied in email before, so what’s to say what the truth is?

And RR, I’m kind of surprised at you. You’re pooh-poohing the whole thing and saying basically “So what if he exaggerated about his contact with Helland?” As long as you’ve been following this case, I’d have expected better.

You know that if Helland discussed the case with Donahue, that’s unethical at best—especially if they discussed an appeal before Helland even made his decision. If Donahue is “exaggerating,” as you put it, then he is a liar. Keep in mind he also claims to have been speaking with Mattis. His entire control operation on the Hutchins case was initially predicated on his claims that he had already talked to Helland and had everything worked out.

Think about this. One of two things is true: Either he engaged in unethical conduct and bragged about it, or he LIED about engaging in unethical conduct, threatened to SUE someone for catching his lie, and then threatened to sue someone for calling him OUT on it. This type of conduct is okay with you?

I don’t care if he’s putting up cash. That’s a lack of integrity, of honor—basic things that Larry Hutchins himself believes in following to the death.

You ask what exposing the Major will accomplish. You’d be surprised. Right now Donahue and McDermott have tried to shut down Larry’s support system. Those of us who have been here supporting Larry through visits and letters and the information battle are literally “barred” from going to see him because we may influence him and Donahue says we’ll hurt his appeal. All of us, who have been there for him financially, physically, or emotionally, have been told to go away. Tell me how taking the rug out from under that Marine can help him. Tell me how it’s okay for Donahue—who we can all admit probably LIED about his involvement with the convening authority—to come along, throw a few thousand cash around, and start making demands? It’s not about personal vendetta—it’s about truth. Period.


190 posted on 06/15/2008 8:09:56 AM PDT by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Lange)
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To: freema
Me and Red got along until someone started trashing their former lover online, someone who has been the most informed on matters relating to NCIS and corruption in the JAG Corps

Then, on the same thread, someone came to that person's defense, and I felt it necessary to put them in their place too. On that one, I will admit I was a little harsh, but I was also HONEST and truthful about that person having a very wide and open glass house on these matters

I came to the defense of the person being trashed and was put on Red's hit list ever since then. I didn't hold any animosity against him for trying to defend the persons I addressed, but now, he once again shows he is out of the loop as far as information goes.

AND, most importantly, he refuses to admit that he KNOWS that NEWSMAX, HUMAN EVENTS all refused to cover Hamdania in detail because...and this is their words ...IT DOESN'T INVOLVE A SITTING CONGRESSMAN AND THEREFORE WOULDN'T SELL NEWS.

191 posted on 06/15/2008 8:11:01 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: lilycicero

Wow, you show a lack of knowlege, too, TONS of people know Kitt!


192 posted on 06/15/2008 8:12:19 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: lilycicero

LOL. Good Lord. I take back what I said...you ARE funny.

You’re right...no one’s ever heard of me outside FR, and everything I do is part of my neverending desire for fame and fortune, which as we all know will come if I keep defending Marines and soldiers against the government.

Lily, you don’t know me, so don’t make assumptions. Just go on your merry way, okay? I’ll even let you have a parting shot, since I can tell you’re not the kind of person to let anyone else have the last word. No, sirree.


193 posted on 06/15/2008 8:15:07 AM PDT by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Lange)
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To: RaceBannon
knowlege

Need I say more?

194 posted on 06/15/2008 8:15:19 AM PDT by lilycicero
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To: lilycicero

yes, enthrall me with your acumen, show me how being a better typist or speller makes you informed about all of it and not just that soldier you were told to stay away from


195 posted on 06/15/2008 8:19:42 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: lilycicero

Your slip is showing, dreadfully. In fact, it’s worse than that, it’s like you’ve got toilet paper sticking out of your britches.


196 posted on 06/15/2008 8:21:34 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: euphoriadev

I thought you left already? Remember...your own thread?


197 posted on 06/15/2008 8:23:34 AM PDT by lilycicero
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To: freema

I expected nothing less from you.


198 posted on 06/15/2008 8:27:28 AM PDT by lilycicero
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To: RaceBannon

For the record, Nat Helms hasn’t made a single penny off the Haditha case.

NewsMax doesn’t pay him. I don’t pay him. Whatever he does is strictly volunteer.

Same with me. I haven’t made a penny off my website or the case and never intend to.

You once asked me for Nat’s number to give to Tim Harrington. And I complied. Tim called Nat to tell him I was a jerk. What was that supposed to accomplish?

I could do without all this in my life, believe me. Here’s a tip. When dealing with a volunteer effort, be grateful for what you get. Slamming people just drives them away.


199 posted on 06/15/2008 8:27:29 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: lilycicero

I expected much more from you.


200 posted on 06/15/2008 8:29:31 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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