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Decision coming June 16, next big day in Haditha case
Defend Our Marines ^ | June 9, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 06/09/2008 6:32:39 PM PDT by RedRover

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To: lilycicero

I did make my own thread. It’s right here.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2031430/posts

;)


201 posted on 06/15/2008 8:29:49 AM PDT by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Lange)
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To: RaceBannon; All

The soldier Race is speaking of is Raymond Girouard. I visited Ray on a weekly basis at the USDB. The USDB found an error stating I didn’t know inmate Girouard prior to confinement to their definition, the visits ceased. If you must know, I speak to Ray on a weekly basis. I send him stamps and money for rations. I allow his family and friends to stay with me. My husband also visited Ray several times.
Yes...I am very ashamed of my actions stated by Race, freema and Kit Kat.


202 posted on 06/15/2008 8:36:30 AM PDT by lilycicero (I don't need a tag using others by riding on their military service. I know who I am.)
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To: RedRover

RR, if they’re liars, is it a bad thing to have them go?

(Not referring to you, obviously.)

I don’t know what happened between you and Tim, and I don’t really care. We’re not a collective, and we all think for ourselves ...it’s just that when it comes down to it, we all operate from a basic point of integrity and therefore any differences can be worked out. You can’t work out lies.

I’m also not “slamming” anyone—for that implies an unprovoked attack against an innocent party. The most I’m doing at the moment is exposing a liar (Donahue) and watching lilycicero walk around with her skirt tucked into her pantyhose. Both of which, yes, I have to admit...are oddly amusing.


203 posted on 06/15/2008 8:36:31 AM PDT by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Lange)
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To: lilycicero

I never referred to your actions, lily. Please leave me off that list of folks you think are sitting here rubbing your face in things.

By the way, my grandma once told me that “people will give you the side of themselves you ask for, most of the time.” Maybe think about that while you’re running around here being rude and insulting to folks you don’t know.


204 posted on 06/15/2008 8:39:19 AM PDT by euphoriadev (http://euphoricreality.com - hosting The Front Line with Kit Lange)
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To: freema
Tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong. I've never been destructive of a Hamdania thread.

So you and Race don't get along...

Not true, as a rule.

I came to the defense of a woman who's brother is in prison, and of a woman who's husband is in Iraq. I would have done the same if it was being done to you.

205 posted on 06/15/2008 8:42:38 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: lilycicero

I was simply pointing to your ignorance in Post #188.


206 posted on 06/15/2008 8:44:08 AM PDT by freema (Who are you?)
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To: euphoriadev

Rude? Better ck the pecking order of the posts.


207 posted on 06/15/2008 8:44:20 AM PDT by lilycicero
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To: euphoriadev
The most I’m doing at the moment is exposing a liar (Donahue)...

Again, for what purpose? Donohue doesn't matter in the Hamdania case. He isn't even close to the chain of command. I really don't get the significance of the "lies".

On the other hand, as I've said, I know he's largely paying for the legal appeal of a friend of mine. I would hate to see that undermined. As I've explained, that's the reason I'm defending him.

You don't know anything about lilycicero. She has been a good friend to people in Leavenworth. And she's taken nothing but grief for her efforts.

208 posted on 06/15/2008 8:56:06 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover; freema

No, you came to the defense of a woman who was trashing her former lover online and stating that he could not be trusted when the reality is, he is one of the most trusted persons in this whole case when it comes to facts and background of the issues

As for not making money, you are honestly telling me that NEWSMAX isn’t in this for profit? They dont make ANY money when they post these articles online?

As for what Tim said to Nat, I wasn’t there for that call, but I do know some people researched you and found some rather questionable things which I just shrugged aside for the most part, it was none of my business, I just cared if you got the points right and factual.

But the way you trash the efforts of people who are doing this for free, and then refuse to admit Hamdania was not carried as a story because it wouldn’t sell newspapers, that is disgusting. You were told of it I am sure, and you certainly y heard it here, and NEWSMAX has had ever chance in the world to correct it...


209 posted on 06/15/2008 8:56:26 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RedRover
Well, it sure doesn't come off that way. Everytime Race pops his head in there's a freakin' fight. I would have done the same if it was being done to you. I appreciate that, Red, but I'm not feelin' it. But then again, ya'll don't know where my uncle, dad, husband, friends, brother, nephews, cousin, and son and more friends are or have been. Same with Race, Tim, and Kit. We're getting slammed round the box here.
210 posted on 06/15/2008 8:57:44 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: RedRover

BTW, If I remember correctly, I gave YOU Tim’s number, not you gave me Nat’s. If you have a copy of the e-mail otherwise, please advise. Cuz, Tim got called by Nat


211 posted on 06/15/2008 8:59:44 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RedRover

You haven’t heard much about Donahue then

Calling someone a liar for saying he DIDN’T know people and then calling someone a liar for saying he DID know people...

There were reasons the board quit the Warrior Fund and left Donahue there almost alone, not sure how many are left, but to start something good, get good people up there with you and then have everyone quit because of you...

You seem to keep sticking up for people with no strong alibi.


212 posted on 06/15/2008 9:04:05 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
I don't know how I got on this ping list. Please take me off, Race. Thanks.
213 posted on 06/15/2008 9:29:31 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Just A Nobody
Will They Ever Apologize?
214 posted on 06/15/2008 9:32:49 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for the link to this excellent piece by Jayme Evans, Smooth. He certainly puts the blame in part where it belongs by calling out the despicable actions of Murtha and Kucinich.

Thanks also for attempting to get this thread back on track, I might add a monumental task.


215 posted on 06/15/2008 9:56:57 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RaceBannon

Please remove my name from your ping list I didn’t know I was on either, Race. Thanks.


216 posted on 06/15/2008 9:58:52 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
I would like to have posted the piece as a stand alone thread, but I think the website is on the "do not post" list.

In balance, it seemed appropriate to place it here. :)

217 posted on 06/15/2008 10:07:42 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Good article, smooth.


218 posted on 06/15/2008 10:09:13 AM PDT by Girlene (Happy Father's Day!)
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To: smoothsailing

You’re correct, Smooth. I tried to post a piece long ago and found out about it.

It couldn’t have been linked at a better place than here. :-)


219 posted on 06/15/2008 10:11:53 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Girlene
Thanks, Girl! It's pretty straightforward, gets right to the point.
220 posted on 06/15/2008 10:15:21 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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