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Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?
Blogtownhall ^ | 6/20/08 | Polark

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: x; Aurorales
There was a period of time (64-67 or thereabouts) where it quickly became the practice to NOT include "race". Then federal law began requiring reports concerning open accommodations, home loans, etc. showing "race" so that it could be determined if "race" was used to discriminate against people.

So, yes, not just the nomenclature used for "race", but also the very question itself changed, and in dramatic ways.

The colorblind society was safely tucked out of the way so that the racebaiting welfare pimps could make a living.

321 posted on 06/19/2008 6:32:23 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: muawiyah

1. I know it is an open discussion board.

2. I know about pinging courtesy.

3. I know you are allowed to comment on any thread.

I just don’t know why you have chosen to continually respond to me about nothing on this thread.

As I said, I don’t care that you think this is settled and I thought the issue raised by the thread starter raised some interesting questions. I furhter said, I might care had you said the particular issue I raised was settled and provided me a link where you thought it was settled. You didn’t, so I don’t understand why you keep respond to or even more about me?


322 posted on 06/19/2008 9:13:35 PM PDT by JLS
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To: The_Reader_David

Well I am not so conerned with what the document is called or if it is the orginal issued in 1961 or if it is a follow document issued later or a copy of the original. I just don’t understand why the campaign would think it would benefit not to release what ever document Obama used to get his passport.


323 posted on 06/19/2008 9:16:28 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Dutch Boy

My birth certificate, like the author’s, was issued in New York County (Manhattan). Mine, however, was issued in 1950. It was filled in by hand and signed by the attending physician. My copy is a microfiche negative, with a raised seal.


324 posted on 06/20/2008 3:59:52 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: freespirited

GREAT DETECTIVE WORK!!


325 posted on 06/21/2008 11:30:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
I have a friend who was born in HI and I compared her COB to this one - it was/is identical, all the way down the the anomalies the author notices. And yes, the seal is in black/white and hers has the authentication stamp on the back, in blue, which is identical.

Does your friend's cert have the certificate number blacked out? Does it have an embossed seal (Obama's doesn't -- the issuing department in HI says all certs it sends out have one).

Also a Patricia DeCosta has posted her cerfication from HI online. Hers says "Date Accepted by Registrar" while Obama's says "Date Filed by Registrar."

I think the jury is still out as to what is going on.

326 posted on 06/21/2008 12:20:29 PM PDT by freespirited (A Democrat is a person who lives in fear that someone, somewhere is proud to be an American.)
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To: freespirited

ONE bit of evidence that the Birth “Certificate” is a fake is that it lists the father’s race as AFRICAN! In the early 1960’s no jurisdiction would make a mistake THAT egregious. African is a geographic location, not a race, which should have been Negroid. The mother’s race, Caucasian, is correct, however. Could this document have been forged by an Osama Obama supporter?


327 posted on 06/21/2008 1:58:27 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Crimson Elephant
Obviously that is a bad example because everyone knows Arnold wasn’t born in the US. But take Bobby Jindal. Let’s assume a couple of people knew he wasn’t born in the USA, but moved here when he was one...and for some reason the public didn’t know etc etc. There is no mechanism to “apply” to run for President? So unless someone bothers to ask, after the fact, there is no mechanism to deal with such a scenario?

The states should require proof of being a "natural born citizen" in order to file for and be placed on a primary election ballot or general election ballot for electors for President of the United States. Anyone not meeting the requirements of office such as being at least 35 years old, a "natural born citizen", or legally barred from holding the office of President under the 22 amendment should be barred from appearing as a candidate in all states for any primary for President or general election where electors are chosen for the office of President of the United States.

328 posted on 06/22/2008 10:19:26 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Crimson Elephant; Jim Noble
Obviously that is a bad example because everyone knows Arnold wasn’t born in the US. But take Bobby Jindal. Let’s assume a couple of people knew he wasn’t born in the USA, but moved here when he was one...and for some reason the public didn’t know etc etc. There is no mechanism to “apply” to run for President? So unless someone bothers to ask, after the fact, there is no mechanism to deal with such a scenario?

The states should require proof of being a "natural born citizen" in order to file for and be placed on a primary election ballot or general election ballot for electors for President of the United States. Anyone not meeting the requirements of office such as being at least 35 years old, a "natural born citizen", or legally barred from holding the office of President under the 22 amendment should be barred from appearing as a candidate in all states for any primary for President or general election where electors are chosen for the office of President of the United States.

329 posted on 06/22/2008 10:21:15 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Crimson Elephant; Jim Noble; Congressman Billybob

Not only should the states ban anyone constitutionally banned from being president from being on a candidate in a presidential primary or election of electors from appearing on any ballot, but the states should be made to disclose their documentation of each candidate. Individuals or organizations should be able to sue the various state governments to produce the documents proving that a candidate meets the qualifications for the office of President under the Freedom of Information Act.


330 posted on 06/22/2008 10:26:43 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The states should require proof of being a "natural born citizen" in order to file for and be placed on a primary election ballot or general election ballot for electors for President of the United States

Since the chusing of electors is under the direct, unchecked, control of State Legislatures, perhaps you should take it up with them.

I think all Federal legislation regulating the acts of the People with regard to elections (except as provided for in Article I, section 4) is unconstitutional - please let's not make the problem worse.

331 posted on 06/22/2008 10:45:26 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
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To: Jim Noble
Since the chusing of electors is under the direct, unchecked, control of State Legislatures, perhaps you should take it up with them.

I think all Federal legislation regulating the acts of the People with regard to elections (except as provided for in Article I, section 4) is unconstitutional - please let's not make the problem worse.

That's what I was implying. The action does not need to be taken up by the federal government at all. I think an FOI inquiry should be made for every single state where Obama filed.

332 posted on 06/22/2008 12:18:46 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: freespirited
this animated gif image goes back and forth between obama's birth certificate and a real birth certificate. note the missing seal, the blacked out certificate number and the differences along the edges of the seal. in order to show detail this is a high mg download.

this writer examines the writing in detail and shows why much of the writing on obama's birth certificate was photo shopped.

This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.
333 posted on 06/28/2008 3:52:26 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: xiangchi

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334 posted on 07/12/2008 4:07:59 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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