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Microsoft scrapes into top 500 supercomputer list, but IBM rules supreme
ITWire ^ | 19 June 2008 | Stephen Withers

Posted on 06/19/2008 3:13:42 PM PDT by ShadowAce

IBM has obliterated the competition in the supercomputing stakes with the top 10 of the top 500 supercomputers in the world, but Microsoft has surprisingly scraped in at number 23 with its Windows HPC Server system. While Microsoft is an unlucky 13 numbers away from the top 10, does the wow start now?

Microsoft can’t claim any particular ‘wow’ with its results until it can wrest a top 10 position, let alone the No.1 position away from IBM, but 23 isn’t too bad when we’re talking about a list of 500.

But the real news isn’t about Microsoft, it’s about IBM’s stunning top 10 wipeout of the competition, starting with IBM’s super speedy RoadRunner and its PETAflop of performance and power at the top of the tree, and four of its venerable Blue Gene systems also making the top 10 list.

Other supercomputer heavyweights Sun, Cray, SGI (twice) and Hewlett-Packard have also figured on the leader board, as expected.

But it’s not just the USA that is home to the world’s five fastest computers – Germany, Indian and France can also claim the kudos of a top 10 placing.

Sadly for us Aussies, we’re completely absent from the Top 500 list, although we could well be in the running for a 2009 placing.

Why? Because next year, the University of Melbourne plans to "develop the most powerful supercomputer and leading computational biology facility dedicated to life sciences research in the world."


The university's vice-chancellor, Professor Glyn Davis, said "The far reaching vision and scale of this initiative will combine Victoria’s already globally competitive biomedical research capability with computational infrastructure specially designed for the life sciences, equal to the best in the world."

But what was that about Windows HPC Server, and all that ‘wow’?

Well, even though the Windows HPC Server software hasn't quite reached release candidate stage (which reminds us of the time it took Vista to come to market) it is used on the number 23 supercomputer.

What’s it loaded onto? The NCSA's 'Abe' supercomputer, powered by a Dell PowerEdge cluster with a peak performance of 88.3 teraflops. It’s far, far from the one PETAflop of IBM power, but it’s still the 23rd most powerful computer in the world.

But to put that into perspective, it’s roughly one-quarter of the performance of the number 2 supercomputer (an IBM Blue Gene at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) and less than one-eleventh of Roadrunner's.

So Microsoft still has a long way to go, but it’s also the actual hardware that’s important. Dell aren’t using the IBM Cell processor, after all. 

And Abe isn’t exclusively running Windows either. While it is the fastest Windows cluster to date, Abe also runs Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4!

"Our experience with Windows HPC Server 2008 has been impressive," said Robert Pennington, deputy director of the NCSA.

"Deploying it was much easier than we expected, and the performance results have surpassed our expectations. When we deployed Windows on our cluster, which has more than 1000 nodes, we went from bare metal to running the LINPACK benchmark programs in just four hours. The performance of Windows HPC Server 2008 has yielded efficiencies that are among the highest we've seen for this class of machine."

Microsoft will also be happy to see that two other Windows HPC systems made the top 100.

Sweden's Umea University runs its IBM BladeCenter cluster of 672 blade servers on Windows HPC, the first time the system software has been publicly run on IBM hardware.

Big Blue is enthusiastic: "By working closely together on Windows HPC Server 2008, our customers are already seeing improved efficiency rates," said Dave Jursik, vice president of supercomputer sales at IBM.

"This industry partnership with Microsoft plays a vital role in achieving our goal to create powerful cluster solutions that address the growing needs of researchers such as the scientists at Umea."

Of course, it’s easy for IBM to be so gracious when they otherwise wipe the floor with Microsoft’s efforts.

And just slipping in at number 100 is Germany's Universitaet Aachen/RWTH with a Fujitsu Siemens Primergy cluster.

The release candidate of Windows HPC Server 2008 is to be made available for download in the last week of June.

If only you could get all those old 486 and Pentium machines out of your garage to give the HPC Server 2008 a go! But sadly that will be a firm no-go.


For any super-speedy hardware and performance, forget Microsoft – and look to acquiring a large stack of IBM Cell processors to make your own RoadRunner. Beep Beep!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: ibm; microsoft; top500

1 posted on 06/19/2008 3:13:43 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 06/19/2008 3:14:04 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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It’ll be easy to get that computer system into the top ten. Keep the hardware, ditch Microsoft, and install a real operating system.


3 posted on 06/19/2008 3:26:39 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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What they didn’t say is what the benchmarks were with the RedHat based system... Microsoft has spent a lot of money on this (they funded a huge cluster center at Cornell) - but I can’t see it being particularly cost effective. I wonder if M$ waives the per-node licenses (1000 nodes or more)...


4 posted on 06/19/2008 3:27:25 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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I wonder if M$ waives the per-node licenses (1000 nodes or more)...

It's a different product than the desktop MS. It's called CCS, and it's based on Windows Server 2008. The licensing is based on the fact that it is going into a cluster, rather than a single machine.

5 posted on 06/19/2008 3:29:59 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Not bad, Microsoft has only come in very low on the list in the past. Still, the same can be done with about 700 PS3s at a cost of only $280,000 instead of their 1,200 nodes, which easily cost over $1 million. Okay, maybe not quite as fast, as it’s Ethernet vs. Infiniband, but still you see the obvious price/power equation.

Supercomputing used to be run by powerful vector/matrix processors from the likes of Cray until commodity clusters came along. Now it looks like we’re going back to that.


6 posted on 06/19/2008 3:38:12 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Now it looks like we’re going back to that.

Looks that way. I wonder how long before the list decides that the machines need to be measured against benchmarks that include GP instructions?

That would slow down the specialized chips in comparison to the commodity chips. I wouldn't agree with such a move, but I can see it happening.

BTW--I submitted a cluster for a client for this (June 2008) list, but it didn't make it. It would've ranked #234 on the last list. There are a lot of newer, faster machines on this list.

7 posted on 06/19/2008 3:43:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I remember when I was 8 years old, my dad took me to the IBM pavillion at the 65 NY worlds Fair. He was so excited to be there, and kept telling me “This is the future, this company will change the world.”

I, of course, didn’t get it. I wanted to see Small world again.


8 posted on 06/19/2008 4:30:02 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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I started working for IBM in 1965, after 3 years in the Army, and started working on the low-end IBM/360 models 30 and 40 the following year. In fact, the 360 series absolutely DID change the world, because thousands of companies that had never before considered computer systems could afford them. Computers transformed many of these companies, and the management systems these early adopters wrote for their own companies became the basis for a gigantic industry that continues today.


9 posted on 06/19/2008 4:51:35 PM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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damn... and i remember when i thought my VAX-785 was a screamer!!!
10 posted on 06/19/2008 4:58:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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14 paragraphs in before the OS that IBM is using for all that power finally makes an appearance?
11 posted on 06/20/2008 6:05:48 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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