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To: snarks_when_bored

As I read this, it applies to citizens who have served in the military, or govt. Where do you see that this applies to a 18 student living in Hawaii who gives birth to a boy in Kenya?


92 posted on 06/25/2008 9:50:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: nikos1121
As I read this, it applies to citizens who have served in the military, or govt. Where do you see that this applies to a 18 student living in Hawaii who gives birth to a boy in Kenya?

nikos, we've been over that!! (laugh) That proviso about the military or government service is to insure that if some citizen is serving outside of U.S. soil or the soil of its outlying possessions, that service will not be taken to invalidate the natural-born status of his/her offspring because of the residency requirement. It's an 'out' for military and government personnel, to insure that their kids born overseas aren't denied natural-born status. It does NOT say that if a citizen is NOT serving in a military or government capacity, then that citizen can't give birth overseas to a natural-born citizen; all those folks have to do is meet the residencey requirement as stated in the condition.

It's legal jargon and somewhat confusing, I'll grant, but that's the meaning.

94 posted on 06/25/2008 9:58:55 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: nikos1121; snarks_when_bored
As I read this, it applies to citizens who have served in the military, or govt.

BINGO. Excellent point. Section 301 states ".....Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by....." PROVIDED is the key word here.

Of course this is besides the point that the birth certificate Obama has put out is definitely a forgery. It does not have an embossed seal. EVERY valid birth certificate MUST have an embossed seal on it from every state. I know this....I deal with birth certificates in my genealogical research. If a certificate does not have a raised and embossed seal on it, its invalid, end of story. When you try to get a passport you will be specifically asked to provide a birth certificate with a raised seal on it. When you apply for a visa, again, it HAS to have a raised and embossed seal. I know this also...my daughter works overseas for the U.S. State Department. If your birth certificate does not have an embossed and raised seal on it (which I've seen some posters state) then you do not have a VALID or CERTIFIED copy and you need to go to or write to your County health department and get one that does have this raised seal.

So the question is.......WHY is Obama putting out an INVALID birth certificate as a valid one???? WHAT is he hiding????? Anything else regarding rules, sections, laws, etc., is besides the point. Why the fake? Why the forgery??? What does he gain by doing this????

This is huge.

98 posted on 06/25/2008 10:14:56 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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