Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
That picture of Stanley Dunham with Obama, sure does look just like the guy in the picture so I concede my time line doesn’t fit. But there is still something wrong with the time line with the pictures of Stanley, Ann, Maya, Barack. If Barack Jr. supposedly was sent back to Hawaii in 1971 and Maya was born in Sept 1971 she would have been a tiny baby. If she was born in Aug 1970 she would be about 1 1/2 yrs old. That little girl in that picture is between 2-3 yrs old. I have a great-grandaughter who is 3 and that girl looks about the size of her.
Looking at the pictures you posted I would have to agree with you that the “Stanley” in the “grad” picture is too young for 1971. But maybe we are wrong and he isn’t Stanley. However just as I was falling asleep last night I had a thought about something else that really caught my attention in that picture. The person right behind Sr. is flashing the “peace” sign. Was there any reason someone would do this in 1961? They would definitely do it in 1971.
Another thing I thought of about Ann and why she isn’t in the picture is that she could be the one who is taking the picture.
The “Peace” sign was and still is a sign Japanese people throw up when they are mugging for the camera in a funny picture.
I believe they have been doing so since the end of WWII and our troops have something to do with it....
Not necessarily. Ann and Maya didn't return to Indonesia until at least 3 yrs after that Christmas. She moved into her own apartment and studied for her MA degree at UH, according to "Dreams," and the Time article. That picture could have been taken anytime between 1971 and 1974-75. I'd also place the "welcome" picture in 1959, the year Obama, Sr. arrived from Kenya, and the year Stanley moved to Hawaii.
The airport picture could have been taken in '73. Obama says he, Maya, Madelyn and Ann took a trip to the mainland "during the summer after my father's visit to Hawaii, before my eleventh birthday," which should have been '72, but then he says they watched the Watergate hearings at night during the trip, and those were in the summer of '73. The precise chronology, as always with Obama, is up for grabs. Stanley didn't go with them, but probably saw them off at the airport.
I'd also place the "Welcome" picture in 1959, the year Obama Sr. arrived from Kenya and the year Stanley moved to Hawaii, ahead of Madelyn and Ann.
Yes, the Direct Action Network adopted the peace sign in the late 50s early 60s.
Interesting too. I’ve found connections prior with Obama and the Direct Action Network.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts?page=179#179
>>>The airport picture could have been taken in ‘73.
No. We have an entire timeline for that airport picture that debunked the 70s. It is on this thread with well researched links to the Hawaii airport being reconstructed that contained before and after shots of he airport.
The airport picture had to in the 60s.
>>>I’d also place the “Welcome” picture in 1959, the year Obama Sr. arrived from Kenya and the year Stanley moved to Hawaii, ahead of Madelyn and Ann.
Frank Davis grew up in Kansas.
The Dunhams are from Kansas.
Frank Davis AND the Dunhams have a common friend from Mercer Island, Robeson.
Obama went into politics in Chicago.
Frank Davis wrote for periodicals in Chicago.
I wonder how coincidental that all is.
That that Hawaiian yard photo the girl child, Maya, I make to be 15 months.
Thanks for clearing that up. I’ve always wondered how the WWII “Victory” sign devolved into this insipid “peace” thing. It makes me mad every time I see it since my dad and my father-in-law were both WWII vets who were in Europe.
Also Calpernia, I think it’s fantastic that you will check out the Rocky mountain article.
Ok, I go along with that but what puzzles me is NOBODY knew who Barack Obama Sr. was before he came to Hawaii. In that picture he is receiving a BIG welcome (hence the Lei) If all those people were arriving at the same time they would all have Lei's on also. So who are all those people there with him? To me it seems plausable that they are people who had met him while going to school in Hawaii and are welcoming him back after a long absence.
I just like to put twists to things. :-)
In listening to David Freddoso "The Case Against Barack Obama" On Medved's program, He identifies Frank Davis as Frank Marshall Davis a known Communist and he was Barack Obama's mentor since he had no father around.
You can add Ayers and Dohrn to the coincidentals: they lived in the Columbia U. area during the years Obama was in NYC ('81-'85).
Dohrn served time in Manahattan federal jail in '83 for refusal to testify about her connection to the '81 Brinks robbery. Ayers got his MA from the Bank Street School of Ed., in the same neighborhood as Columbia, in '84. Dohrn got a job with Sidley & Austin's NY Office in '84. (Obama met Michelle in Sidley's Chicago office in '89). Dohrn (who never got admitted to the bar due to her record) worked in the Chicago office in 1988, after she and Ayers returned to Chicago, and probably met Michelle there.
A spiderweb of coincidences.
>>>NOBODY knew who Barack Obama Sr. was before he came to Hawaii.
We don’t know that. If this picture is from Late 50s early 60s, then why is Stanley Davis there? Why is Janice Okuba there? Is that Frank Davis squatting in front? (yes, I know I’m speculating on who these people are).
One point all shouldn’t miss. Kenya was not unknown back then. They were a central point in mining and transporting diamonds and tanzanite. Back then, the protestors would be all over the diamond exchange in England screaming ‘No Blood for Diamonds’.
I did miss that. This darn thread is starting to scream for a white board for me to keep track of all these links.
Much too young. Davis was born in 1905.
Yes.
You are right. That is a younger man.
As I've said before, I believe it's a picture of Obama's arrival in Hawaii in 1959, amid some fanfare, in the first wave of the Kenya airlift of students. Stanley did move to Hawaii ahead of Ann's graduation in 1960, and that does look like him -- which would put the lie to the story of Ann Dunham meeting him first at UH, and Stanley not knowing who he was when Ann brought him home to dinner (yet another "Dream" scene taken from a movie).
If that is Janice Okuba, she may have been part of the effort to pay his airfare to the states, or get him a scholarship at UH.
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