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To: CSM
Your personal experience with college students is very disconnected from soldiers lives and attitudes. To even try to compare them shows a great disrespect for our nations finest men and women. I’d bet you are a female and made this statement based purely on emotions. If you really agree with this study, would you be uncomfortable if I joined you in the shower?

Perhaps before you start saying I am disrespectful and commenting based on emotion, you should look at post 122, from a current military member who agrees with me.

In addition, your point about "you joining me in the shower" is inapposite. In that situation, assuming you are a male, and as I am a heterosexual female, there could be the problem of mutual attraction. The accurate comparison would be whether I would be hesitant to shower in an open bay with a lesbian, and I assure you I would not be as I've been in that situation. People on this board assume that homosexuals are so hypersexualized that they're drooling after folks who aren't interested in them and let me tell you, for the vast majority,it's just not true. You're believing what (1) you see in the media {which is hilarious on this board) and (2) what you're allowed to read on this board.

Amazing how when I post under "Cammie" I get all sorts of knee-jerk reactions about being a female, but several years ago, before a computer and e-mail addy change lost all my password info, I posted under a gender neutral name. Back then, no one alleged that I was emotional. Quite humorous.

209 posted on 07/09/2008 3:30:43 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

“Perhaps before you start saying I am disrespectful and commenting based on emotion, you should look at post 122, from a current military member who agrees with me.”

I won’t speak for a member of the Navy, however I don’t think that a navy member can speak for the army. I can tell you that post 122 is not an accurate reflection of the views of lower enlisted members of the army.

“In addition, your point about “you joining me in the shower” is inapposite. In that situation, assuming you are a male, and as I am a heterosexual female, there could be the problem of mutual attraction. The accurate comparison would be whether I would be hesitant to shower in an open bay with a lesbian, and I assure you I would not be as I’ve been in that situation.”

You miss the point. Are you willing to shower with a random heterosexual male? Straight men and gay men are both stimulated by visual images, are you willing to allow a random straight man to be allowed that stimulation of viewing you while taking a shower? That is what you are asking of lower enlisted male soldiers.

“I posted under a gender neutral name. Back then, no one alleged that I was emotional. Quite humorous.”

I didn’t know you back then and I don’t really know you now. I only know what you have typed on this discussion thread and it is pretty clear that you aren’t looking at the entire picture and usually an emotional aspect is what prevents that.


217 posted on 07/10/2008 4:16:09 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: cammie
People on this board assume that homosexuals are so hypersexualized that they're drooling after folks who aren't interested in them and let me tell you, for the vast majority,it's just not true.

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In my experience, homosexuals are very promiscuous, male and female alike.

This line of reasoning is completely false and misleading, and fools only the extremely agenda-driven and naive.

218 posted on 07/10/2008 5:19:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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