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Global warming causing California glacier to grow, scientists say
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Posted on 07/09/2008 12:35:27 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Global warming causing California glacier to grow, scientists say Last Updated: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 | 2:40 PM ET CBC News

The glaciers on Mount Shasta in California are growing because of global warming, experts say.

"When people look at glaciers around the world, the majority of them are shrinking," said Slawek Tulaczyk, a University of California, Santa Cruz, professor who studied the glaciers.

But the seven glaciers on Shasta, part of the Cascade mountains in northern California, "seem to be benefiting from the warming ocean," he said.

As the ocean warms, more moisture evaporates. As moisture moves inland, it falls as snow — enough on Shasta to more than offset a 1 C temperature rise in the past century.

The three smallest of the Shasta glaciers are more than twice the length they were in 1950.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullsquirming; mountshasta; mtshasta
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To: Sicon
When I was younger, whenever I would read someone quoting "studies" or "research" I would picture a vast team of dedicated research scientists in laboratories wearing white coats and carrying clipboards, amassing large amounts of data and publishing it with brilliant analysis and conclusions.

Now, alas, I realize the "studies" are more likely coming from a grant-seeking agenda-driven loner using Wikipedia or Reader's Digest for primary source documentation.

41 posted on 07/09/2008 1:12:20 PM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: SIDENET

Global warming has also caused my bunions to grow. And it has caused me weight gain.

Gotta blame something.....


42 posted on 07/09/2008 1:12:36 PM PDT by billygoatgruff
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To: raisetheroof

>>>It takes cold to turn that moisture into snow. If this is due to global warming, where did the cold come from?

The 14,000 feet of elevation provides a lot of cold. You could have a rise in average temperature at the top of the mountain, that if still below freezing would promote glacier growth.
As one who grew up in the snow belt of western NY, I can tell you that warm winters can lead to snowier winters. Most winters, Lake Erie would freeze completely in January and February, so cold winds out of Canada would not have a lot of moisture when they hit the higher elevations in WNY. In warmer winters, Lake Erie would not completely freeze over and those same winds would pick up moisture off the lake and deposit large quantitites of lake effect snow on WNY.


43 posted on 07/09/2008 1:13:06 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: Osage Orange

And to what do you attribute the ears? Is that just genetics? Republican conspiracy? Larry Sinclair got a little too frisky?


44 posted on 07/09/2008 1:14:38 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (0bambi: the audacity of hype)
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To: Sub-Driver; Timeout; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

45 posted on 07/09/2008 1:16:12 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Hoffer Rand

I’ll take “All of the Above”, Alex........


46 posted on 07/09/2008 1:16:33 PM PDT by Osage Orange (DO NOT POST TO ME AGAIN...!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sooooo.... even cooling is blamed on global warming and if I use the term “Climate Change” it is a general indictment of human existence and I'm covered on both accounts, right? I'm just tryin’ to keep up with the current faux science jibber-jabber.
47 posted on 07/09/2008 1:17:22 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: cogitator; xcamel
Your Wikipedia picture is conveniently missing a whole lot

Most notably Greenland & Antarctica

and in New Zealand that Large Red dot is a lie, all 48 out of 48 Glaciers are growing.

48 posted on 07/09/2008 1:18:34 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Sub-Driver

There was a story a few weeks ago about how Mt. St. Helens had the only growing Glacier in the U.S. Now we have more. Makes you go Hmmmmmmmmm


49 posted on 07/09/2008 1:19:27 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: camerakid400

You forgot zits.


50 posted on 07/09/2008 1:26:02 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: raisetheroof
It takes cold to turn that moisture into snow. If this is due to global warming, where did the cold come from?

Let me take a crack at this! Um.....from the glaciers? How'd I do??? How'd I do??? How'd I do???

51 posted on 07/09/2008 1:28:52 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: NC28203

When air rises, it cools at a rate of 5.5 degrees Fahrenheit for every 1000 feet. This is called the dry adiabatic lapse rate. When it reaches the dew point, the moisture condenses, and the lapse rate is lower, 2-3 degrees/1000 feet(wet adiabatic lapse rate). Then, the moisture falls out as rain or snow. If the air was 50 degrees at sea level, it would begin to snow when it reached the 3000 foot level or so. I took a course in high school meteorology.


52 posted on 07/09/2008 1:44:16 PM PDT by dnetti
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To: NC28203

When air rises, it cools at a rate of 5.5 degrees Fahrenheit for every 1000 feet. This is called the dry adiabatic lapse rate. When it reaches the dew point, the moisture condenses, and the lapse rate is lower, 2-3 degrees/1000 feet(wet adiabatic lapse rate). Then, the moisture falls out as rain or snow. If the air was 50 degrees at sea level, it would begin to snow when it reached the 3000 foot level or so. I took a course in high school meteorology.


53 posted on 07/09/2008 1:44:20 PM PDT by dnetti
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To: Sub-Driver

“As the ocean warms, more moisture evaporates. As moisture moves inland, it falls as snow — enough on Shasta to more than offset a 1 C temperature rise in the past century.”

So why isn`t global warming causing glaciers to grow in other parts of the world? Why just the Shasta glaciers?


54 posted on 07/09/2008 1:45:03 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Sub-Driver
As the ocean warms, more moisture evaporates. As moisture moves inland, it falls as snow

Ok, so California gets more moisture as a result of global warming? I was under the impression that the drought and the resulting wildfires this year were a result of global warming.
55 posted on 07/09/2008 2:20:31 PM PDT by loreldan (Can't vote for Obama, so rah rah McCain I guess)
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To: qam1
New Zealand that Large Red dot is a lie, all 48 out of 48 Glaciers are growing.

"All 48 glaciers in the Southern Alps have grown during the past year."

Maybe the dot summarizes a trend longer than a year?

56 posted on 07/09/2008 2:22:14 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: qam1
Most notably Greenland & Antarctica

Antarctic glaciers show retreat


57 posted on 07/09/2008 2:30:26 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

“Maybe the dot summarizes a trend longer than a year.”

I don’t know. Does it?


58 posted on 07/09/2008 2:40:48 PM PDT by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
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To: Sub-Driver
They sound like such fools! No matter what happens....... globull warming is the cause.
59 posted on 07/09/2008 2:42:49 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: qam1

“Your Wikipedia picture is conveniently missing a whole lot
Most notably Greenland & Antarctica

“and in New Zealand that Large Red dot is a lie, all 48 out of 48 Glaciers are growing.”

Thanks for the link which demonstrates that data can be found to support either side of the AGW debate. The point being that we don’t even know if the earth is actually warming - let alone what is causing it.


60 posted on 07/09/2008 2:42:58 PM PDT by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
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