Posted on 07/16/2008 5:43:59 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
Same here but in my case it was forty years.
These "journalists" are just not going to give up trying to shove their agenda down our throats.
Decades ago, EMPLOYERS fled the corrupt, filthy cities and built industrial parks and campuslike corporate headquarters out where people LIVED.
They keep trundling out the Wonderful Workers' Paradise idea of living in urban rat cages and projects. They can CALL them Upscale Gentrification all they want. I visited my brother's really expensive NYC apartment years ago when he lived there.
I'd rather die.
Besides, if someone is commuting to a city, they are supposedly doing so because the city "Pays better". Well, then it should "Pay Better" enough so that adding a hundred or two a month can be handled.
They probably wouldn’t need Doggy Day Care at all if they spent more time with their dog. Which they could if they weren’t on the road an hour and a half a day.
If they worked close to home, they could run home at lunch and play with the dog, they would leave later, come home earlier.
When did I ever say I wanted government to dictate where we live? If you really think drilling will bring gas back down to $2/gallon, you’re delusional. This a problem of global supply and demand, and it’s only going to get worse. We need to ween ourselves off oil, not kick the can down the road.
The high prices are good because they’ll allow the market to figure out something more efficient much faster than any government program will. In fact, I’m glad there’s so much gridlock in Washington over this, because that will keep them from getting in the way of progress.
Secretly? Not the libs I know. They are publicly delighted.They think it is going to force the rest of us onto public transportation and curtail our mobility and will give them more space on the street for their Volvos and BMWs.
You didn’t. I did. And I’m not delusional. I agree with you on quite a few points.
Oh, wait...maybe I AM delusional, LOL! :)
I obviously wasn’t speaking literally. My point is that drilling will be expensive and largely ineffective.
To answer your question, I expect the value of my house to raise, which is another plus. Taxes, on the other hand, should go down, because there the tax base will increase more than the expenses of running the same level of government service.
[Im not begging the government to drill for more oil. I just want them to get the heck out of the way and let companies do it.]
Exactly.
You say this as a Libertarian?
BINGO
How do you expect the “same level of government services” when there’s an influx of people?
The reason that things are bad in cities like Milwaukee and Detroit is because people abandoned the cities in the first place. Minneapolis and St. Paul are certainly not problem-free, but have never had the level of urban blight a lot of other cities have. A big reason for that is because people have continually lived in the city. A city like Detroit or Baltimore seems so hopeless because it’s so abandoned. That contributes to crime and makes it more expensive to police.
I don’t think it’s a sense of entitlement to want to keep your kids safe; that’s a normal desire. The sense of entitlement comes when you think you deserve something you can’t afford. Are you better then all of the people still trapped in some of those neighborhoods? Plenty of them would like to keep their children safe also.
You’re absolutely correct, it *is* Bush’s fault that this lady can’t send her dog to day care 3 days a week. :-)
So you want us all to be trapped and miserable?
The sense of entitlement comes when you think you deserve something you cant afford.
If you couldn't afford something at the onset, I agree with you. But circumstances change. You can't always predict which circumstance will change, in which direction they'll change and how it will affect you.
I completely agree with you. The mantra that “Government should do something about it” is a very dangerous and slippery slope.
New York City is full of financial opportunity and is very low crime. They can get people to pay quite a bit to live there, as it’s very desireable. The liberalness of cities has a lot more to do with the population than the mere fact that it’s an urban setting. Cities might not be so liberal if more conservatives moved back into them. Also, cities are inherently liberal - San Diego managed to stay pretty conservative for a long time.
I’m not against the middle class, but we need to accept that cheap gas is a thing of the past. The middle class moved out of the cities decades ago, and now they may start to move back in. If they figure out they can afford to stay in the suburbs, more power to them.
I wager that gas will never be less than $3.50 again, even if we start drilling. This a problem of global supply and demand. It’s only going to get worse. However, I do understand that you only mean to drill as stop-gap, and we’re otherwise on the same page. I think leaving the prices high is the best way for the free market to figure out what the best alternative is, rather than have the government expand drilling and then expect the government to figure out what we’re going to do next.
If you lived in Dallas, you could vote for a new City Council.
I speak for myself and my wife. We moved from Urban California to Rural California for a reason. The urban lifestyle we grew up, and lived in most of our adult lives went to Hell. Drugs, Shootings and other Crimes, Profiteering Leftist Politicians, Offensive neighbors, housing crammed on top of one another. It was a disgusting way to have to have to live. It took years to get the stench of Urban living from our noses.
You seem to assume that we whom live in Suburbia all live in “McMansions”. That’s hardly the case. Most of the folks out in the Suburban areas live in quiet, peaceful retreat in considerably less than a “McMansion”.
We won’t move back to that crap Urban lifestyle because you or any idiot Leftist thinks we in Suburbia are consuming more than you think we should. You go ahead and live in the rat infested Urban lifestyle if you wish, but don’t haughtily condemn those of us whom had the sense to get the Hell out.
My point is that by being depending on gasoline, you’re depending on the whims of the government. They can easily make restrictions by banning drilling or raising taxes.
You got it right. My wife has an almost identical commute. Her 2007 Toyota Corolla gets 42mpg (commute is essentially all "highway driving"). When we bought her Toyota, I got rid of my Ford Ranger, which was getting 24 mpg, and took her "old" car (1993 Acura Integra), which gets 32 mpg (highway miles). "My" commute is about 2 miles each way--- :^).
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