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To: mouse1

The reason that things are bad in cities like Milwaukee and Detroit is because people abandoned the cities in the first place. Minneapolis and St. Paul are certainly not problem-free, but have never had the level of urban blight a lot of other cities have. A big reason for that is because people have continually lived in the city. A city like Detroit or Baltimore seems so hopeless because it’s so abandoned. That contributes to crime and makes it more expensive to police.

I don’t think it’s a sense of entitlement to want to keep your kids safe; that’s a normal desire. The sense of entitlement comes when you think you deserve something you can’t afford. Are you better then all of the people still trapped in some of those neighborhoods? Plenty of them would like to keep their children safe also.


51 posted on 07/16/2008 6:42:53 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Are you better then all of the people still trapped in some of those neighborhoods? Plenty of them would like to keep their children safe also.

So you want us all to be trapped and miserable?

The sense of entitlement comes when you think you deserve something you can’t afford.

If you couldn't afford something at the onset, I agree with you. But circumstances change. You can't always predict which circumstance will change, in which direction they'll change and how it will affect you.

53 posted on 07/16/2008 6:47:09 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
The reason that things are bad in cities like Milwaukee and Detroit is because people abandoned the cities in the first place.

People didn't abandon the cities - the cities abandoned the people. They became liberal, grabbing more and more of what people earned. So the earners escaped, just as one would escape a communist country.

I'm guessing that you're probably young so you don't remember events like the Hough Riots in Cleveland. Or the Black Panthers knocking on doors on the east side of Cleveland, telling "whitey" to get out of their neighborhood.

Watching one's neighborhood turn from a cozy, friendly place where everybody took care of their property to one where homeowners took no pride in ownership. Where they let their own homes falter, dragging the value of the neighborhood down with it. Tenants destroying the property that they rented, and then blaming the landlord. And the cities - they could have cared less as long as they got their tax dollars. In fact, they often took the side of the tenents.

I worked those neighborhoods as an electric Meter Reader for 3+ years. I've seen it up close and personal.

After you've seen a city or a neighborhood get destroyed by liberalism, you won't want any part of it any more. My family fled Cleveland in 1959, and many of my friends' families did so during the '60's and early '70's when things had gotten really rough (thanks, LBJ, for that "great society" mindset). I would never go back to that hellhole, and I wouldn't expect that very many others will either, unless they live in some gated community or one of the few remaining enclaves of sanity.

112 posted on 07/16/2008 8:12:22 AM PDT by meyer (Government is the problem, not the solution.)
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