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To: compound w
Really? Hiding behind Internet anonymity is OK, but pretending to be something you are not would be disingenuous.

Holding minorities who do not want to be part of China must be one of the social reforms. It is not the Islamic terrorism which made China occupy Xinjiang. It was naked land grab. The same with Tibet. Your good conscience only works selectively.

China was successfully duping naive Westerners blinded by Marco-polo fairy tales and billion-men market. However, they do not value coexistence. Historically, they firmly believe coexistence is threat to stability and invite endless wars. That mentality has never changed. Even today. Deep down, they all dream that someday all countries in the world come to China with tributes and swear eternal loyalty to China. They believe what it should be, and that is China's destiny. If Bush does not see it, it is that he is behind the curve.

For China, coexistence has always been just a tactic. Domination is their ultimate goal.

Tibetans ask nicely (so far) for their autonomy. Still having a strong religious organization not beholden to Chinese regime cannot be tolerated. They are called all kinds of name they do not deserve. Now Chinese cry foul for stone-age Islamic Republic. After all years of helping Pakistani nuclear weapons' project and bankrolling anti-American Islamic interest behind the scene, Chinese claim now that they are victims.

Uyghurs and Tibetans do not want to be part of Chinese. Let them go. Not doing so would invite more terrorism or other militant actions from local population. Of course, I know that China try to solve it by flooding the area with surplus Han-Chinese, diluting the local gene pool. China never runs out of humanity, does it?

All these Chinese like to view themselves as a member of 'great empire,' while never realizing that oh-so-great empire see them as one of billions of cheapest disposable resources available.

The culturally desolate China, made possible by wholesale destruction by Mao of Chinese society, now only has raw powerlust and greed. It is all about how much territory they gain and how imposing they look to the outside.

55 posted on 08/04/2008 3:09:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I couldn’t have said that better TLR. BUMP!!!


57 posted on 08/04/2008 3:12:09 AM PDT by MimirsWell
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To: TigerLikesRooster

http://www.smh.com.au/news/latest-news/there-are-three-types-of-tourist-two-can-go-home/2008/08/01/1217097532391.html

Here’s a link that substantiates what you say further. compound w(anker) is full of sh*t.


59 posted on 08/04/2008 3:18:51 AM PDT by MimirsWell
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yet one more time, I’ll try to summarize my argument.

Fifteen or twenty years ago I would have described China as the world’s largest concentration camp. But over the past two decades I’ve witnessed a tremendous loosening of China’s social, political, and economic systems. I’ve described many of these changes across numerous posts I’ve made here over the past few weeks. Some people see these changes as worthless. Others think I am lying. The changes may not be enough for some, but for me they represent substantial advancement. In particular, I would highlight the new religious freedom that has emerged in recent years. China may not be a U.S. style democracy, but it is certainly no longer a totalitarian state.

Moreover, the loosening and democratizing of Chinese society, in my opinion, strengthens China’s right to exercise sovereignty over its lands and people. In my opinion, China has every right to prevent separatist movements and to work to mobilize and integrate its population so as to support what it considers to be the general welfare of the nation. If the Chinese government perceives “general welfare” to mean that some old Muslim men must abandon some ancient village square in favor of a new school, train station, or housing project, then I am not going to second guess, nor will I do so if China restricts independence movements in its provinces.

This belief of mine is contingent on continued Chinese social liberalization, the likes of which I’ve seen and reported here. So long as this continues, I will not view China as an enemy. As I stated before, my view is not so very different from many Republicans and conservatives. Numerous similar opinions have been expressed here on Free Republic. Others have respectfully disagreed and I enjoy reading their views. But I’m not going to take kindly to lies and name calling. I’m not an “operative” of any sort; just a conservative American with differing views on China.


70 posted on 08/04/2008 7:09:12 AM PDT by compound w
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