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Cheney threatens Russia over Georgia (Russia is Blaming the US)
Press TV Iran ^ | Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:45:01 GMT | AGB/DT

Posted on 08/10/2008 7:08:47 PM PDT by Fred

US Vice President Dick Cheney has threatened Russia after the country was forced to reply Georgia's attack on South Ossetia's region.

In a phone conversation with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili on Sunday, Cheney said Russia's military actions in Georgia 'must not go unanswered'.

Continuation of Russian attack 'would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community,' Cheney's press secretary, Lee Ann McBride, quoted him as telling Saakashvili.

"The vice president expressed the United States' solidarity with the Georgian people and their democratically elected government in the face of this threat to Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity," McBride said.

Earlier, Chairman of Russia's State Duma Security Committee Vladimir Vasilyev announced that US helped Georgia start military operation in South Ossetia.

"The further the situation unfolds, the more the world will understand that Georgia would never be able to do all this without America," said Vasilyev.

Georgian military forces launched a large-scale military offensive against South Ossetia on Thursday evening hours before the start of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games. Russia, in response, moved its forces to the region.

The conflict has left at least 2000 people dead.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; cheney; geopolitics; georgia; iran; oil; putin; russia; southossetia; vicepresident; wot
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To: LIConFem
I'm not sure it's Putin wanting the fight. There are far more many names involved in Russia in this fracas, than Putin's.

Conoco-Phillips has investments in Russia.

Also

WRAPUP 3-Chavez drives Exxon, ConocoPhillips from Venezuela, June, 26, 2007.

Allow me to introduce: Dmitri Medvedev: Russia's new 'Puppet President'

--snip:

Dmitri Medvedev is the youngest and the third President of Russia. Western media is seeing him as 'Puppet President', as it will be difficult for him to come out of the shadow of the outgoing President Vladimir Putin who will sworn as new PM..

--end snip

Medvedev has been quoted as saying some very imflammatory things; something which one would think a President SHOULDN'T say in such a time as this.

Prime Minister in Russia is NOT the same as PRIME Minister in say, England.

Somehow... I smell Chavez'/Iran sulfur emanations all the way from So. Ossetia.

Is someone trying to drive Conoco-Phillips from Russia? Take over their investments, too?

41 posted on 08/10/2008 7:57:12 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Technogeeb

Agreed... and who’s idea was it to jump the Kosovo shark?


42 posted on 08/10/2008 8:02:25 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: brivette
>>>>>we don’t have a dog in this fight

You are exactly right.

43 posted on 08/10/2008 8:04:40 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Wiseghy
The bottom line will be if we see Carrier movement or change in defense posture.

2 US aircraft carriers headed for Gulf'

A bit far away I know, but it does bring the battlegroups in the region up to four.

44 posted on 08/10/2008 8:05:34 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
I don’t know what to think. One part of me thinks Bush has signed off on the Russian plan and Putin has signed off on the American plan (Iran). The other part fears Russia is ready to attempt a global checkmate of some kind, and we had no idea this was coming.

I keep thinking of the old "Simpsons" episode where they showed the UN and the Russian ambassador. I flips the sign from "Russia" to "USSR" and says something like "we've been laying low for a while." I think we missed a lot of opportunities to work with Russia to get her to our side back in the 1990's, Kosovo being a huge one, we backed the wrong dog. Still we have to deal with what's going on now and it makes me wonder if the satire on the "Simpsons" is close to the mark.
45 posted on 08/10/2008 8:05:36 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Anti-Hillary

“Dangerous if followed”.

Please explain?


46 posted on 08/10/2008 8:05:41 PM PDT by homeguard (The U.S. is being ruled by a liberal Media, Judicial, Academic Oligarchy)
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To: Technogeeb

Yes I know North Ossetia is still part of Russia but that is their choice not ours.

What is your reference on South Ossetia attacking Georgia.

Funny you should mention Canada read my next post. It all depends how far these “Peace keeper” continue their attack into Georgia proper.


47 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:08 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Wiseghy

Deja vu all over again..Yogi berra


48 posted on 08/10/2008 8:13:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

thanks for the resonable and articulate post.


49 posted on 08/10/2008 8:15:58 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: KevinDavis
The we don't have a dog in this fight attitude...

Yes, that's right and I totally agree. It's going to be pretty rough if we decide to go for it, but if we don't, Russia is going to reclaim all of the break away countries. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to reclaim Alaska either. If they perceive us as weak, they will go for it. Like an Obama administration would be.

Clinton downsized our military pretty bad, and we've had to double the length of tour duties to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know if we're got enough troops to engage in a war with Russia. Of course, if it goes nuclear, boots on the ground won't matter.

50 posted on 08/10/2008 8:19:48 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (A TAXPAYER VOTING FOR BARACK OBAMA IS LIKE A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COLONEL SANDERS!)
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To: homeguard

We changed the law.

HIV/AIDS foreigners are now welcome in the USA!!

Makes ya feel good, doesn’t it?


51 posted on 08/10/2008 8:19:50 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to Impeach Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; keep your eye on these House hearings.)
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To: NRA2BFree
What attitude are you talking about?

The "we don't have a dog in this fight" attitude. In the 30's, the US just sort of laid low and let Hitler come into power, and even build a huge military machine. We could see it coming, but decided it wasn't our business...

We see how that turned out.

52 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:14 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: NRA2BFree; All

That is one of the reasons why I’m voting for McCain.. Granted he is not a true conservative (but who is), but he is Commander in Chief material.


53 posted on 08/10/2008 8:34:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Hey Barak... I'm a citizen of the US not the WORLD!!!!!)
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To: Technogeeb; Fred
I note your remarks on post #22.

The problem of a people moving into another area and refusing to then become part of the culture, is one that is too often ignored. I would presume that if people are gulled into accepting these people, they are being optimistic. Remember the Alamo, remember the Goliad indeed.

I know that a Greek military man had carried out a census in 1871 of Kosovo. The Kosovo Serbs had a slight edge over Albanians and others. At the turn of the last century, the Kosovo Serbs were then in a sizable minority. Gradually through brutal acts, large numbers of Serbs were chased out after WW2. Now they are only 5% to 7% of the population. It was the Serbs who were "ethnically cleansed", not, as we were told by Nato, the Serbs who did that.

Curiously enough, little is said of Adolf Hitler. For it was his excuse to go into Czechoslovakia. He claimed that the Sudaten Germans were being pushed around by the Czechs. He pulled the same thing in Poland. He made things ten time worse. He lost the whole lot.

The problem of populations that refuse to integrate is upon us.

54 posted on 08/10/2008 8:38:40 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Fred
What a freaking mess we have.

Our best ally of the former Soviet captives being reabsorbed and there is nothing we can do. Which makes all other former Soviet captives aware that we cannot protect them in any way.

Russia bombing the only competing pipeline out of Asia supplying 1% of oil production just as we were getting oil speculation cooled off.

Two other wars going on and a third heating up while this is also going on.

A border like a sieve.

A slow growth economy with threat of stagflation.

Putin played this one pretty darn well. Checkmate?
55 posted on 08/10/2008 8:51:20 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Bailee

So if Texas decided to join Mexico and The US disagreed and Mexic attacked Houston, you’d be OK with that?


56 posted on 08/10/2008 8:53:51 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Bailee

So if Texas decided to join Mexico and The US disagreed and Mexic attacked Houston, you’d be OK with that?


57 posted on 08/10/2008 8:53:55 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Peter Libra
You've just essentially described what has taken place in re Georgia and Southern Ossetia. SO refused to "acclimate", instead demanding their own language and culture. Up until 2004; there was plenty of assimilation going on between Georgia and SoOssetia citizens. However, then SO then declared itself not a part of Georgia; but under Russian "laws". Georgia then ruled that there will be no "regional parties" within Georgia. And So Ossetia invited Russia in. And, it all blows and glows from there.

Follow the money. Follow the pipeline. Follow the most recent rise in a barrel of gas given this recent seizure and murder of 2000 citizens.

No Blood for Oil, Miz Pelosi? Yank the other one; it's got bells.

In California, the Democrat party only obeys the rules and laws IT agrees with.

58 posted on 08/10/2008 9:04:48 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
and we had no idea this was coming.

If we were relying on the CIA, then it's certain we had no idea this was coming.

59 posted on 08/10/2008 9:11:46 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: brivette

Sure we do: The Free dog. The Ally. The non-hegemon.

Whether we choose to engage militarily is another question. But are you seriously suggesting moral and strategic equivalence between Georgia and Russia from the U.S. perspective?


60 posted on 08/10/2008 9:19:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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