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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
If the birth was not registered within a very short time after it occurred, usually only weeks, then there would be no way to get a copy years later.

iow....either it was there from day-one or it was not.

Since she was born in Jakarta there could not possibly be a BC in Hawaii with her name on it.

btw...tharwat is a Black American from Georgia. Research is our friend.

61 posted on 08/11/2008 8:49:25 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
btw...tharwat is a Black American from Georgia. Research is our friend.

Found on No Quarter

http://www.domaintools.com/registrant-search/?and=Tharwat.com

Tharwat.com has 93 websites. Have a spare $123.00.

65 posted on 08/11/2008 9:54:04 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: wtc911
tharwat is a Black American from Georgia

Oh. I forgot. Would you link or give a publication reference for that?

66 posted on 08/11/2008 9:57:14 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: wtc911
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tharwat

Still don't know if he's American. There is a Tharwat involved in the democracy movement in Egypt.

67 posted on 08/11/2008 10:08:20 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: wtc911
Since she was born in Jakarta there could not possibly be a BC in Hawaii with her name on it.

No, that's not my understanding.

TexasDarlin has a lot more on this, but my understanding is that if the child qualifies for American birth citizenship - for instance, if Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro considered herself to be a citizen of Hawaii and NOT a citizen of Indonesia - then there are circumstances under which Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro could have applied for documentation of Maya Soetoro's birth from the state of Hawaii, even though the birth [apparently] took place in Indonesia.

The problem is that there is no evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro considered herself to be a citizen of Hawaii [in fact, she was very likely a citizen of Indonesia at that point - again, a nation which does NOT recognize dual citizenship], and so, if Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro was not a citizen of the state of Hawaii [much less a citizen of the USA], but applied for & received this Hawaiian documentation for her daughter, Maya Soetoro, as though she [Stanley Ann] were a citizen of Hawaii, then she [Stanley Ann] committed a felony [or multiple felonies].

73 posted on 08/11/2008 12:47:37 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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