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Russia seizes Georgia base, opens second front
AP ^ | Aug 11, 2008 | MISHA DZHINDZHIKHASHVILI

Posted on 08/11/2008 8:16:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia opened a second front of fighting in Georgia on Monday, sending armored vehicles beyond two breakaway provinces and seizing a military base and police stations in the country's west, the Georgian government and a Russian official said.

GEORGIAN FORCES

RUSSIAN FORCES


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; energy; geopolitics; georgia; georgianconflict; russia; russianinvasion; southossetia; war
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To: elhombrelibre

The sheep are selective in who their sympathy falls upon.

I hope this makes a few Obama supporters feel like morons. They think the whole world is nicey nicey or something I dunno. Wake up guys or do y’all need someone to hit the back of your head with a history book?


181 posted on 08/11/2008 9:40:50 AM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: autumnraine

Russia ain’t going nothing with Iran except aiding them, not us.


182 posted on 08/11/2008 9:41:21 AM PDT by pctech
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To: commonguymd
Worse than toying...their diplomats are openly taunting us.
183 posted on 08/11/2008 9:41:31 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Girlene

He should have been on a plane back to here the moment Russia invaded Georgia. I would say something about priorities, but it would do no good.


184 posted on 08/11/2008 9:41:51 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Jeff Head

I support that plan. I think you’ve outlined a reasoned approach to conventionally opposing Russian action in Georgia. At the very least, it limits what actions they will be allowed to take.

If Russia wants to escalate beyond that, then it’s their choice. Then we mop the floor with them.

I have kept my eye on some of our munitions. Some of them are simply magical in their scope. They can level a whole section of armored vehicles with one drop. I don’t think Putin has anything like that at his disposal.

At the very least, it would make him have to pay a very heavy price for attaining any goal he may have. I’m convinced we could stop him in his tracks if we wanted to.


185 posted on 08/11/2008 9:42:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: toddlintown
Where, oh where was our intleligence community?

They're too busy plotting against Bush and providing sourced data to tabloid anti-Bush authors to have seen this coming. Our intelligence community is a joke these days. We're paying for Bush's stupid 'New Tone'.

186 posted on 08/11/2008 9:42:55 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Jeff Head

I sure hope you are right... I’ll be praying for those making the decisions right now - that’s for sure... This is a tricky and dangerous game Russia is playing (dangerous for us as well). I think things are definitely going to get worse before they get better...


187 posted on 08/11/2008 9:43:26 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (LR's BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: Texas Songwriter

He’s not getting any now is he? In any case the rest of us are being greased up so grab your ankles.


188 posted on 08/11/2008 9:43:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: ChinaThreat
"While we are indeed friends with Georgia, it is ridiculous though to think we should get involved in a direct war with Russia over this."

BS!

We went to war over Kuwait, then we go to war over Georgia!

Allies are allies regardless of the threat they face.

If it becomes clear that the Russians are not going to stop, then we need to start.

Anything else to me is raw cowardice.

189 posted on 08/11/2008 9:44:48 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: autumnraine
This has taken me by surprise. I never believed Russia to be an ally, but I didn’t really expect them to full on take out an ally and taunt us about it.

An interesting comment. It raises the very interesting question of what's really behind the Russian action. I think there's probably something else afoot here ... and it probably involves Georgia only in a peripheral sense.

Of course, I have no idea what the true Russian motives might be ... but (unlike us) they're chess players, and this is just an opening move.

190 posted on 08/11/2008 9:45:15 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Jeff Head
Make no mistake. The ChiComs are watching very, very closely how the US responds to this Communist aggression.

They want to see how committed we are defending Taiwan.

As hard as it may be to believe, we are at a crossroads of epic significance.

191 posted on 08/11/2008 9:46:28 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: modest proposal
If they do not wake up to people like Putin and the thugs in Rian, Venezuela, Cuba, and China...then a book to the back of the head will be the least of their worries about what mught eventually hit them in the back of the head.

All tyrants deal with useful idiots in such a fashion once they take control.

Yes, American better ask itself, as distasteful as the choices are, in light of the reality in the world that we are seeing...just which of these two will we want at the helm facing off against a Putin...particularly since these are the only two real choices that have any chance of actually becoming President:

CHOOSING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES




NOBAMA MOVEMENT SPREADS ACROSS THE NATION

192 posted on 08/11/2008 9:46:56 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Post-Neolithic

Why ? Putin was 2 seats away from him at the Olympics - seems to me that he was in just the right place for some diplomacy. He left the Olympics on the same day IIRC as Putin.

Isn’t that what everyone wants ? Jawbone before war ?

I’m now waiting for the Dems to chastise Bush for NOT being a cowboy...


193 posted on 08/11/2008 9:47:21 AM PDT by nicola_tesla ("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I agree. And it is probably only the opening move of a pivotal, world-wide chess game.


194 posted on 08/11/2008 9:47:57 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: rrstar96
Are we seriously going to trust the neo-Soviets with anything?

Of course not. the Russians have been biding their time. Nothing has changed for them, they still consider us as their enemy. Bush was completely wrong about Putin. Absolutely wrong. The good news is that McCain never bought his BS for a minute...I feel better about a McCain Presidency already.

195 posted on 08/11/2008 9:48:19 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Carry_Okie
Putin just may have have done more for US/European relations than any person since Ronald Reagan.

Oh come on ................. The Euro's have been collapsing before the islam-a-nazies for years and you think they will stand up against the islam-a-nazies mentors?

196 posted on 08/11/2008 9:49:18 AM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: isrul

Geeze. You do nothing but bitch and moan. If you’re so spiffy-swell, why don’t you get off your ass and do something real?


197 posted on 08/11/2008 9:50:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: DoughtyOne
I hope something like that is afoot. But we dare not let Georgia go down without us lifting a hand.

The Russians are serious and I believe this is just an opening move in a much larger, far reaching policy, that they hope will turn back the clock 20 years.

We need to check mate them right there, and do so in such a way that makes it clear that we are not going futher than protecting Georgia, but that by God, shows them we will protect Georgia, Ukraine, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, etc., etc. fro their aims and their naked agression.

198 posted on 08/11/2008 9:53:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: nicola_tesla
"He left the Olympics on the same day IIRC as Putin."

I figure you must have read somewhere that he left on Saturday, the same day Puti left. Bush left on Monday(Or Sunday if the papers are using a different time zone).

199 posted on 08/11/2008 9:54:19 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: r9etb
"This has taken me by surprise. I never believed Russia to be an ally, but I didn't really expect them to full on take out an ally and taunt us about it.

An interesting comment. It raises the very interesting question of what's really behind the Russian action. I think there's probably something else afoot here ... and it probably involves Georgia only in a peripheral sense."

I would hazard a guess this is a loud message to the rest of the former Soviet states to become cooperative and to the Ukraine to become much more cooperative about the Black Sea Fleet. Also, this will cut off the 'stans from the West and give Russia control over their energy resources.

200 posted on 08/11/2008 9:56:00 AM PDT by Truth29
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