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Russia seizes Georgia base, opens second front
AP ^ | Aug 11, 2008 | MISHA DZHINDZHIKHASHVILI

Posted on 08/11/2008 8:16:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia opened a second front of fighting in Georgia on Monday, sending armored vehicles beyond two breakaway provinces and seizing a military base and police stations in the country's west, the Georgian government and a Russian official said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; energy; geopolitics; georgia; georgianconflict; russia; russianinvasion; southossetia; war
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TBILISI, August 11 (RIA Novosti) - Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said on Monday that the Russian military has blocked a central highway linking east and west Georgia.

Russia troops entered the main part of Georgia’s territory earlier on Monday, as Russia continued its peace enforcement operation to prevent further Georgian incursions into breakaway South Ossetia.

Saakashvili said in press briefing at the Georgian Security Council: “This evening they [Russian troops] managed to reach the central highway and cut off eastern Georgia from the country’s west.”

He compared the situation to 1921, when Soviet forces entered Georgia.


341 posted on 08/11/2008 11:30:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Georgia = friend. Russia = enemy.)
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To: Schwarzeneger
The Russian’s are acting very deliberately and they know that the US is weak now with elections pending the economy in mess. This shows you that perceived weakness will be taken advantage of and we are way late in responding to this.

While the Russkies are devils, they're seldom fools.

342 posted on 08/11/2008 11:31:36 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Would you want your surgeon graduating at the bottom 1% of his class?)
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To: Scythian

Well thats another subject. Why we are helping build up China’s infastructure, in exchange for cheap Walmart spatulas is a mystery to me. But as far as deploying troops, I don’t think China is right now going to side with the Russians. But this is a clear case of a clear American ally (since the 1990s) being invaded. These Georgian’s sent troops to Iraq to help us and we are just sitting there allowing them to be dominated by the Russians.


343 posted on 08/11/2008 11:32:28 AM PDT by Schwarzeneger
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To: kristinn

It’s too late. Russia has control over the majority of the entire country now.


344 posted on 08/11/2008 11:32:48 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Jack Black

Well, you forget, Texans themselves would not allow it and if push came to shove the country of Mexico wouldn’t stand a chance against Texas even if the federal government never did get involved!!!!!!!!!!!


345 posted on 08/11/2008 11:35:00 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Schwarzeneger
My understanding is that the Georgians never crossed into Russian territory. Am I mistaken? No, that is correct. But they attacked South Ossetia. South Ossetia had earned semi-autonomous status after a war in 1991. Their were four parties keeping the peace there, including Russia and Georgia. There was a status quo. The Georgians didn't like it, but it was the established reality. The truth is, that like Kosovo, if the fate of the province were put to the citizens living there they would overwhelmingly vote to leave Georgia.

As uncomfortable as the status quo was it was still the best deal they could get. I guess they thought Russia would be too busy at the Olympics to do anything about them reasserting control over Ossetia.

Ooops, big mistake! You just through the first punch at the bully!! Now hes going to smash your nose (South Ossessia) and then break your arm and foot for good measure.

346 posted on 08/11/2008 11:35:13 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: autumnraine
US Diplomants don't make those decisions -
347 posted on 08/11/2008 11:35:40 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: E. Cartman
You wanna get off your Bash Bush Banter!! I am getting so sick and tired of listening to you criticizing him in every post, give it a rest would ya, maybe you need to go back to DU!
348 posted on 08/11/2008 11:38:38 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker
I don't think our break away states will ask to be part of Mexico. They will ask for "increased autonomy" at first. Some (non-Latino) Texans may even like that idea.

I think New Mexico is the state most likely to move as a state. The demographic maps of Texas show a big difference between the big-bend and border areas, and the rest of Texas. So I would first expect county-by-county changes that lead to ethnic cleansing in souther Texas.

I think public schools offering instruction in Spanish with English as an elective secong language will be a powerful forcing mechanism to get the "Anglo" minorities to either leave or acclimate to Latino Dimmhi status.

349 posted on 08/11/2008 11:39:25 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: isrul
Something that can be stated with certainty of its reality is a fact.

Only if you are 100% because of irerefutable scienctific which allows it to be no other way...that is not the case here.

350 posted on 08/11/2008 11:39:59 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: isrul
Something that can be stated with certainty of its reality is a fact.

Only if you are 100% sure of it because of irerefutable scienctific facts which allows it to be no other way...that is not the case here.

351 posted on 08/11/2008 11:40:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jack Black

The United Nations, European Union, Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), Council of the European Union, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and all other countries in the world recognize South Ossetia as part of Georgia. However, the de facto independent republic governed by the secessionist government held a second independence referendum on November 12, 2006, after its first referendum in 1992 was not recognized by the international community as valid.

The point here is that the United Nations, European Union, Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), Council of the European Union, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and all other countries in the world recognize South Ossetia as part of Georgia. Thats what we have to go on.

Russia had zero rights to invade and even at a stretch they should have fended off the attack only. Instead the Russian’s invaded a sovereign country.


352 posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:03 AM PDT by Schwarzeneger
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To: eastforker

He’s still just the President and the 1st amendment hasn’t been canceled yet.


353 posted on 08/11/2008 11:42:35 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Would you want your surgeon graduating at the bottom 1% of his class?)
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To: sport

He’s testing europe as well since he controls most of their energy supply.


354 posted on 08/11/2008 11:42:53 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: E. Cartman

True, but, it is evident you have an agenda and it is starting to disrupt the thread, is that your intention.


355 posted on 08/11/2008 11:44:02 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Schwarzeneger

The political arena in Turkey has changed from years ago. The moderate islamists that run Turkey today are not interested in military intervention .... only concerning the PKK in northern Iraq since they intervene in Turkeys internal security affairs. Though Turkish/Russian historical relations are tepid, Russia does not pose a threat at present.

I think Turkey will become a member of the EU simply because of the millions of Turks already work in Europe today.


356 posted on 08/11/2008 11:44:24 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: McGruff; Jeff Head; All
From the Washington Post:


357 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SkyShot
They’d need 100,000 million boots.

I can see the headlines.

Chinese Completes Boot Issue to Army. Cows extinct in Asia.

358 posted on 08/11/2008 11:45:59 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
My guess is that Georgia is pretty much finished.

I'm waiting for a "resolution" from the U.N. condemning this, that will show them.

359 posted on 08/11/2008 11:47:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: E. Cartman

“When the history’s in, he’ll probably go down as Benedict Bush”

The war in Iraq was justified, Ron Paul lost the GOP race fair and square, and Bob Barr stands no chance. You BDSers are no different than the far-left.


360 posted on 08/11/2008 11:48:12 AM PDT by death2tyrants
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