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Nancy Pelosi Invests In Energy Scheme and Water Grab By T. Boone Pickens
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| 08-11-08
Posted on 08/12/2008 10:12:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
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To: Exton1
I’d like to see this old skank spend her twilight years behind bars. I think we all knew this was coming. Pickens and his acres/miles of windmills polluting the horizons.
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posted on
08/12/2008 12:07:45 PM PDT
by
yorkie01
To: moondoggie
If it is OK to suck it out and sell it to Amarillo, then it is OK to suck it out and sell it to Dallas.
To: Ben Ficklin
Sorry but your are misinformed. CLNE does many things. The Natural Gas conversion item is only of their projects.
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posted on
08/12/2008 12:17:48 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
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To: MNJohnnie
Mesa Petroleum is the oil company. Mesa Power is the electrical generating company. Mesa Water is the well water company.
They all have websites. If you went to them, you would better informed than you are reading the mis-info article that you posted.
To: MNJohnnie
It is hard to tell if the water scheme is the device being used to seize the land or if the wind turbine scheme is the means by which he will fund the water scheme,
In Texas, it is ALWAYS about water.
Anyone who believes differently hasn't lived here long enough.
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posted on
08/12/2008 12:51:23 PM PDT
by
horse_doc
(Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
To: Ben Ficklin
If it is OK to suck it out and sell it to Amarillo, then it is OK to suck it out and sell it to Dallas.
Not if it involves whopping subsidies.
You list yourself as a Texan, but can you really not know the difference between the size of Amarillo and Dallas?
Do you really not care if the Panhandle is economically crippled, just so T. Boone Pickens can get corporate welfare?
If his plan is so great, let him use his vaunted free-market expertise to make it happen, without sucking at the government's teat.
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posted on
08/12/2008 12:58:43 PM PDT
by
horse_doc
(Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
To: MNJohnnie
Is anyone talking about this but us?
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posted on
08/12/2008 1:00:48 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
To: MileHi
I don't think they generate electricity with ethanol
But ethanol is subsidized with at least 5 Billion of our tax dollars.
The runoff with all the fertilizer in it from farming the corn flows down to the Mississippi and is a component of enlarging the “dead zone” at the mouth of the river in the gulf.
The amount of diesel used to harvest the corn is immense
I forget what fuel is used to refine the corn to ethanol, but I think it is coal.
Ethanol, the way we create it here in the USA is a lose-lose situation.
It takes about 32% more energy to produce than is received from it.
Plus it brings the MPG down when it is used.
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posted on
08/12/2008 1:05:15 PM PDT
by
Syncro
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To: horse_doc
There are no subsidies on the well water. It is all done iaw the laws of Texas and permitted by the Panhandle Groundwater Conservation District.
It may sound like a lot of water to you but there are over 100 landowners participating in Mesa Water and they control a huge amount of land.
As for the windpower subsidy, that is Texas' gain.
And if you consider what might develop with Sharyland Utilities and the Panhandle Loop, Pickens' windpower is small potatoes.
Its ok to oppose it, but what is the point of spreading lies?
To: MNJohnnie
Always follow the money, always. Especially when it involves our elected officials.
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posted on
08/12/2008 2:30:09 PM PDT
by
vpintheak
(Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
To: Ben Ficklin
If it is OK to suck it out and sell it to Amarillo, then it is OK to suck it out and sell it to Dallas.Wrong. Ground water is a finite resource. Over-exploitation could lead to a lot of wells going dry in the region.
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posted on
08/12/2008 3:12:48 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: Ben Ficklin
If these ankle biters had any sense, they'd buy CLNE and WPT.TO. It's astounding how naive these people are to how capitalism works.
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posted on
08/12/2008 3:34:39 PM PDT
by
shove_it
(and have a nice day)
To: dirtboy
Water rights laws vary from state to state.
To: shove_it
"they'd buy CLNE"
Now's the time, the price is down.
To: Syncro
Sure, that post I replied to was the wrong unit of measure for ethanol. My bad. I was thinking per gallon, because as your post notes, ethanol only exists because of subsidies. And a lot of that taxpayer money is in turn used to re-elect the pols who vote for it.
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posted on
08/12/2008 4:55:56 PM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: MileHi
Sorry, I guess I was using your post to put in the thread some facts about ethanol, you had no “my bad”
Ethanol is an issue I like to put out facts about, thanks for the inspiration.
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:33:41 PM PDT
by
Syncro
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To: Flycatcher
I didn’t trust him either.
When do they start charging for the very air we breathe?
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posted on
08/12/2008 8:01:32 PM PDT
by
Califreak
(Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
To: MileHi
To: Para-Ord.45
Thanks. And of course ethanol isn’t because the subject was electricity. My mixup.
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posted on
08/14/2008 3:38:06 PM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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