Tbilisi alleges 'massacres' near South Ossetia

AFP via Yahoo News ^ | 08/12/2008 | AFP

[SolidWood]

Joseph Stalin was from South Odessa, which is ethnically Russian. It was also part of the Russian Empire during that time. Therefore, Stalin was a Russian.

Uhm. It's South-Ossetia (Odessa is a city). And ethnically they are not Russian but Iranian-related. Yes it was part of the Russian Empire. And Stalin's father was Ossetian, but not his mother.

In any case to blame Stalin to a people is like saying all Austrians are guilty of Hitler, while Germans are innocent.

[SolidWood]

BTW my last sentence was meant as an attack on those trying to blame Stalinism on Georgians, while declaring Russians innocent of any wrong that occured in the Soviet Union.

[M. Espinola]

The world better take keen note of Moscow’s latest example of the butchery they have in store for more bordering victims of Russian neo-Soviet-fascist wrath. The question is, which nation shall be next on Putin’s hit list?

[slowhandluke]

The big secret is that Kosovo is overwhelmingly inhabited by people neither Serb nor Christian and it has been that way for centuries.

Rather than the big secret, don't you mean the big lie?

The general run of articles on kosovo demographics is that Albanians only got over 50% sometime between 1912 and 1950, through a high birthrate and illegal immigration.

Allowing such demographic-driven secessions is a very dangerous thing in world politics.

[skeeter]

Others can decide who's the ignoramus.

From Wikipedia:With the arrival of NATO, a large number of Serbs fled the region, estimated at 100,000 by the UNHCR. Around 120,000 remain in Kosovo and oppose any rule by Albanians. Many Serbs fear to return to their homes since they perceive that they are not safe for them, even with UNMIK protection. These fears were notably confirmed by the unrest in 2004, when 900 Serbian houses were burned and other property destroyed while the Serbian populace was closed into enclaves (ghettoes) and had to concentrate to the north of Kosovo (where it remains to this day), causing a wave of 3,500 Serbian refugees.

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

The Ossetian separatists are Muslims right?

This seems to be what we are intentionally not being told about the conflict if it is the case.

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

If the Ossetian separatists are radical Muslim terrorits then does this shows that Putin has learned nothing from the Moscow theater incident.

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

should say if the "separatist Ossetians" is really the "polite PC newspeak term" for radical Muslim terrorists.

[skeeter]

BTW in Latin, “ignoramus” literally means “we are ignorant of” or “we do not know.” The term acquired its English meaning of an ignorant person or dunce.

[Hoplite]

Do you really intent to portray someone else as an ignoramus by regurgitating what you find on wikipedia?

Oh my.

Add up the Serbian populations, you'll get ~ 137,500. Divide the four contiguous Northern municipalities' (Leposaviq, Mitrovica, Zubin Potok, Zvecan) Serbian populations (~65,000) by that total and find that your source is wrong, the majority of Kosovo's Serbian population resides in the Albanian majority municipalities to the South.

I say again: The majority of Kosovo's Serbs still live in the Albanian dominated South rather than the Serbian enclave in the North. (Post #13. What a surprise.)

Ergo, you remain ignorant of the actual facts even after doing what you think passes for research.

Continue to rely upon wikipedia as your primary source of information, and that is not likely to change.

Further, I asked if you believed that the US was complicit in perpetrating a war crime in Kosovo. You did not answer. Please do so now - I'd like to know if your problem is simple garbage in/garbage out fueled ignorance or a full blown case of anti-American Serb propaganda inspired willful idiocy.

[skeeter]

OK, so you can’t admit to being wrong, either.

[Hoplite]

Since you at least appear able to look up Latin terms, look up non sequitur, as it describes your last comment.

And what about your response to the question regarding US complicity in war crimes?

[skeeter]

My original comment concerned the near 50% reduction in the number of Serbs in Kosovo since NATO's intervention, and you respond with gibberish to the effect that because all serbs in Kosovo haven't yet been driven into enclaves, then - what? There's no ethnic cleansing of serbs going on? There's yer non-sequitor.

You and your straw friend have a great evening.

[Hoplite]

Wait a minute - so you attempted to assert that we were *both* in error in your #51:

OK, so you can’t admit to being wrong, either

and now you're attempting to say that *you* weren't in error?

At least you've helped me determine the minimum amount of time you need before you can start to ignore facts.

Allow me to point out to you that attempting to reframe your argument

My original comment concerned the near 50% reduction in the number of Serbs in Kosovo since NATO's intervention

when the actual original text

Why, we are going along with ethnic cleansing in Kosovo.

is still available is stupid in the extreme.

In summation: we are not going along with the ethnic cleansing of Kosovo. If we were, not only would the Serbs not be concentrated in the North, as you erroneously asserted, there wouldn't be any Serbs in Kosovo at all. We have stated numerous times that our goal is a multiethnic Kosovo, and our policies reflect this. Your attempts to insinuate anything to the contrary simply do not signify - you are, as demonstrated, ignorant, and incapable of arguing what you think is your position with any modicum of logic or intellectual honesty.

[skeeter]

Wait a minute - so you attempted to assert that we were *both* in error in your #51:

What I meant was, not only are you apparently a small-minded name caller, you lack the grace to admit you are wrong, as well.

Your reading comprehension needs a little work.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

...What I meant was, not only are you apparently a small-minded name caller, you lack the grace to admit you are wrong, as well.

You are a patient person - given the individual that you are (were) responding to.

[Kozak]

Go ahead, swallow. You seem to like the taste.

[eleni121]

How about I post some photos of Putin with any number of leaders or Bush slithering up to the Saudi beasts...

If you look carefully Putin diplomatically shuns the little creep from Iran...but you are beneath subtlety...

Just a silly waste of your time...posting photo ops...LOL

[Kozak]

Uh Huh. Thats why Puty is supplying Iran with arms and nuclear know how. Try getting up off your knees and look around.

[Kozak]

I’m more embarrassed by Bush’s slithering up to Puty. How he could see a “soul” in those dead eyes is amazingly bad judgement.